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Watch Collection Fantasy Draft 2019

Published on Tue, 10 Sep 2019 10:00:06 +0000

Some killer watches and some healthy competition – and you get to vote on the winner!

Synopsis

This episode features the first-ever Hodinkee fantasy watch collection draft, recorded on the opening day of the NFL football season. Host Stephen Pulvirent is joined by colleagues Ben Clymer, Jack Forster, and Cara Barrett for a snake-style draft where each participant selects six watches across different categories: modern sport watch, modern dress watch, vintage sport watch, vintage dress watch, high complication, and a flex spot. The draft proceeds with strategic picks and good-natured competition, as each participant reveals their watch knowledge and personal preferences. Cara leads off by selecting a Rolex 6239 non-Paul Newman Daytona, while Ben makes bold choices including Duke Ellington's Patek Philippe 1563 and Neil Armstrong's Speedmaster. Stephen opts for classics like the Patek 2526 and an Akrivia Chronomètre Contemporain, while Jack rounds out his collection with pieces like a Patek observatory tourbillon and a modern yellow gold Day-Date.

The episode showcases each participant's distinct collecting philosophy and expertise, with choices ranging from historically significant pieces to modern sport watches like the Tudor Black Bay 58. The conversation is peppered with insider watch industry knowledge, personal anecdotes, and playful banter about everything from fantasy football terminology to Jack's unfiltered Camel cigarettes. The episode concludes with an invitation for listeners to vote on which collection is best, with results to be revealed in a future episode. The draft successfully captures the personalities of each participant while demonstrating the incredible breadth and depth of horological history and craftsmanship.

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Unknown I think the vintage sport watch category is where there's gonna be the most competition. So I'm gonna go there next. It's all about strategy. I'm gonna up the any a little bit and go space dweller. I was about to trump you on that. I was about to say space dweller. I gotta go space dweller. Um it's getting cut throat. Yeah, if we're going if we're going hard, I gotta go for the wait. That was a that was kind of a what do they call it? An oop-de-oop? Oop-de-oop? Ally oop? Yeah, whenever they do the fake out with the ball. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was kind of what you just did there. That's not a fake out, but I I What's the phrase for the fake out? I d I don't know. I don't know. Okay, whatever, you faked us with that. Yeah. Went in ten sixteen and left with a space dwelling. Yeah, I forgot we're doing fantasy. I keep thinking we're doing like what we would actually do. Oh this is fantastic. Huge props to Car of a friend of work at the horn. I mean I would say as the least athletic person, you would guess you're welcome. Hey everybody, this is your host Stephen Polveran. We're gonna do something a little bit different this week. We recorded this episode the day that the NFL football season started, and we thought it would be fun to do a little fantasy football draft before watch collections. So I grabbed Ben, Jack, and Cara, and we sat down and did a little six-round draft to draft our fantasy six watch collections. It gets goofy, it gets competitive, it's a whole lot of fun, and the best part is you guys get to vote on who drafted the best collection. So stay tuned through the whole show, we'll give you all the details and then visit hodinky.com to find the link to vote. We'll also put it in the show notes. All right, without further ado, here we go: the first ever Hodinky fantasy watch collection draft. Better than ever. Pumped. This is gonna be a great episode. I think I'm having a heart attack. Where's the defibrillator? That's a bad way to start an episode. I think I'm having a heart attack. Was that was the recorder on for that? Oh we're gonna roll it. Okay, cool. Yeah. It's the excitement of doing our very first hodinky radio fantasy watch collection draft. Wow, that was longer than I expected it to be.. 20201199. It's uh watch collecting season always, but now it's football season. So we're we're leaning into it. Uh wait, what's fantasy football?
Unknown What's what do you mean what's fantasy football? We hilariously discovered yesterday, uh, in the spirit of full disclosure, uh that uh the three participants in this particular exercise have never actually done fantasy football. Whereas
Unknown I currently have two fantasy football teams, neither of which is any good. R.ight Which is good. I don't even know what a good fantasy football team means. Couldn't tell you. Well, that aside, what are the names of your fantasy football team? Oh, good idea. So I use a lot about people. I use the same name for both teams. It's Vandalay Industries. Okay. All right,. right Right. Wait, what? It's a Seinfeld thing. Oh George is. He's an importer exporter. Right? He does import and export. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. Art Vandal A. Yeah. Art Vandalade. Um why don't you explain the rules of the game? Yeah, so to kick things off, so uh I'm your host, Stephen Pulverin, and this is our first ever Hodinky Radio Fantasy Watch Collection draft. So the idea here was we're recording this uh actually the same day, I believe, as the very first uh regular season NFL game. Oh yeah, the Bears are in that one. Oh, are they? I saw that on the Today Show this morning. Nicely done. Um so what we're doing is we we had this idea that to kind of celebrate the start of football season, I guess, or uh you know, just because it seemed like a lot of fun, we would do a fantasy football style watch collection draft. So we' whatre gonna do here, I have Jack, I have Ben, and I have Cara. And what the four of us are gonna do over the next uh 45 minutes or so is draft our ideal six watch collection. So we got a bunch of rules. We're gonna come up with our teams and then we're gonna leave it up to you, the listeners, to vote on who got the best team. So we're not gonna do brackets. There's no way to like compete head to head. We're just gonna let everybody vote and see which of the four of us can come up with the best watch collection. I feel like Jack's gonna win. I have a very funny feeling Jack's gonna win. Well Jack has a printout, so he's definitely gonna win. That like shouldn't count. Should we make him throw out his printout? People that prepare like that's lame, right? I mean wait, what one could one could argue you've spent the last eleven years preparing real hard so for this event, for this day. The whole company was actually a Trojan horse Prepare for fantasy watch football relevant. Whatever the hell this is. So the basic rules are that everybody's gotta come up with a six watch collection, and those collections have to consist of six sort of different categories of pieces. So it's a modern sport watch, a modern dress watch, a vintage sport watch, a vintage dress watch, something that's a high complication, and then you've got your sixth spot is your your flex spot. So you get whatever you want in that last spot. Flex like you're like balling out? No, no, like it's flexible. Like you can pick whatever you want. Oh, okay. Not like flexing. No, I mean you can make it that. I think we probably should. Yeah, flex is like flexible. Flex like you're like you're going at it. We'll go for that then. See? We're changing rules on the fly. I do not understand this idiom. Flex, like like when you flex a muscle, you're like showing off your gun. Like your flex would be like a rainbow daytona or like a platinum twenty four ninety nine or like you know, some crazy thing, you know? Those are both gonna be Jack's flexes. He's gonna but the k the killer is that we all know each other really well, so we can steal each other's watches
Unknown before they get there. Yeah I like to think that I've remained somewhat enigmatic to my coworkers. You haven't. I don't know. We all know you
Unknown super, super well. Um darn it. We have you figured out. Yeah. Sorry. Another illusion. That's what five years will do to you. So the basic way this draft is going to work is we're going to do a snake draft. So I'm going to in a second, I have our names on pieces of paper here. We're going to determine the draft order. Or is the hat. Can you dunno it? I don't have hat. I know I meant to bring a hat. He literally said I'm gonna bring a hat. So I'm gonna pull names out of a hat. I forgot. That's not the same. How are you gonna do randomized? I think that I'm sure Frank Rhoda has a hat. Oh my god. We'll be okay. I I have a hat.
Unknown We don't need a hat. We're fine without a hat. I have the perfect hat. I'm trying to see if there's a bowl in it. Okay
Unknown . All right. Car's got a little bowl for us here. Well that's good because I don't feel like it's really cool trinkets in here. The sound effects are great. I was looking for those. I'm not even kidding. All right, well take those now. Well now we got our names. They're in a little basket, and the way it works is we we determine the draft order one through four. And then it's a snake draft. So the person who goes fourth then goes fifth and we go the other way through the order. So wait, there's no actual snake involved. No, no, but it's no. I mean, you wanna just have a snake pick your watches? I think I should draw the nails with my eyes closed so you don't cheat. Let's oh so I don't cheat. Okay. I see I see what car is doing here. Uh sweet. So we'll do that. And then the only other important rule is you can't pick duplicates. Okay. So if Ben picks a submariner for his modern sport watch, Jack can't then pick a different submariner for his vintage sport watch. Even though it's totally a differentent category, differ. Yeah. You get there's one Samariner, one speed master, one Nautilus. That was not clear yesterday. It actually was, but whatever Okay, fine. I wasn't attention. All right. C D, close your eyes. I feel like Steven's gonna go first. I like how Steven's participating and giving us the rules. Yeah, you know. I'm first. Oh I I smell some cheating here. That's not cheating. Nah, her eyes are closed. Her eyes are closed. Are they though? Ben is second. Boom. Double cheating. Triple cheating. Triple cheating. Nepotism. Jack's definitely next. SJP is next. Jack is dead last. And then Jack. But then you get to go first the second round. Honestly, I would argue that Jack's got the best position. Yeah, being last is best because you get to go first next. Okay. You know? Okay, so it's all pick the watches we all know Jack's gonna pick. Yeah, you kinda have to. Um are we doing it in the order of the categories that you No, so you can pick in any order you want. So you just you have to by the end have filled all six spots, but you can pick in what we do in every category. I feel like just so it's like a little bit more linear, so like we're all talking about the same thing. No, no, no. Because otherwise it's there's like no incentive to have to pick like something that's higher stake Got it. Okay. And then the end we'll do a recap. So I can actually start with my flex watch. Yeah, you can start with whatever you want. You just have to those have the watches have to fit those six categories at the end. All right, let's do it. All right, Cara, you are on the clock. Round one, pick one. What is the first overall pick in the Hodinky fantasy watch draft? Okay, vintage sports watch. Okay. Rolex 6239, non-Paul Newman. That's my pick. Interesting. You picked that because you know I love that. Yep. I actually had that written down in my notes. That's my favorite vintage Daytona. I have that written down in my notes. That is a good block pick. Okay. So that's So now Daytonas are out. Daytonas are out. I wouldn't pick one either. All Daytonas are out. So the first overall picked one. Six two three nine non Paul Newman steel. Yes. That was vintage sports. That's vintage sports. All right. Uh Jack, what do you think of that pick? You
Unknown surprised? Uh no, no, I'm not not especially surprised. Um, like Cara, I'm a little bit taken aback by the fact that we are not going through the categories uh in sequence. Uh but uh you know what? I'm gonna manage my anxiety. Okay
Unknown . Well you get to pick your top two watches in in just two more picks. Yeah. Okay, so Ben, you're next. Yeah, what are the categories again? Okay, modern sports, modern dress, vintage sports, vintage dress, complication, and flex. Okay. I'm gonna go flex first. All right. Number two pick going big. Uh Duke Ellington's Patek Philippe 1563. Oh. Which is a waterproof split second chronograph from Patek Philippe, of which I believe they made three. One of them belonged to Duke Ellington. Another one for a while anyway belonged to Jean Claude Beaver. And the third I believe is in the Patek Museum. Although I think Duke Ellington's is now also in the Patek Museum. I believe you're right. Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah, because they have what, two of the three? I think so. That's a flex
Unknown . That's yeah, that's a serious watch. And it's it's kind of got everything. Uh one of the three classic high complications from one of the classic big three watchmakers with an absolutely impeccable providence with an extremely classy guy. There it is. There it is. Would you wear it every day
Unknown ? Every fucking day. Yeah. Just flexing all the time. Just flexing the time. Just walk around like that. There we go. Yeah. Just showing it off. It's the same case as a 1463. Right. Ish. Uh so I mean it's really it's a thirty-five millimeter w well waterproof cornograph, split second cornograph. So that's pretty neat. That counts as a flex. Okay. All right. Stevie. Oof. I'm up. Uh you know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna go just to shake things up here. I'm gonna go with my vintage dress watch first. Oh boom. Ben knows what I'm going for. I do too. I'm going paddock 2526. You would. I would sorry I have to. But I literally wrote the story on that one. I know you did. I know you wrote the story. Basically, this is just everybody taking it. Everyone's here to troll me, effectively. So I go twenty five twenty six white gold enamel dial. What color enamel dial? Do they have a black one? The cream enamel. Do they have a black enamel dial? Uh not in white gold. Not in white. That's platinum. Platinum one with diamond mark. That's not enamel. It's uh it's like a brass dial. Ah, okay. I'm glad we talked about this. Yeah. Now you know. Yeah. Uh for people who don't know the the twenty five twenty six, which we'll link it up. Ben literally did write the story on uh how this is like maybe at the time, uh you wrote the story, maybe like the most undervalued watch out there. Yeah. Uh and I think I think that held up. Um still have one. Great watch. Um but yeah, it's the first uh automatic Patek. It's waterproof. It's a little bit bigger than most collatravas, but it's still about as elegant as as a watch can get. So yeah, I mean the 25-26, it was so Rolex, at least the the story goes, they had the patent on self-winding, rotor-based self-winding movements for 20 years. So the which basically you expired in I think 1951. So 1931 to 51, nobody else could make a self-winding movement. So Patek effectively had 20 years to make their first self-winding watch. You know, as soon as Rolex did it, they were like, all right, we're gonna do one two, obviously. Uh and so this thing is just so massively over-engineered uh that it is is wild. And you know, a a good friend of ours who is one of the best watchmakers in the United States, a man named Alkis, who I'm sure many of our listeners might know. I mean, he was like, this is for sure the best self-winding movement ever made, including modern day movements from the likes of Langa. He said basically the day matic, the Langa daimatic would be the second best self-winding movement of all time. But the the Patek, I think it's AT six hundred or whatever it is. That self-winding movement is for sure the highest quality self-winding movement ever made. And now it's in my fantasy watch collection. Sorry, man. I uh I had a couple other options in that category, but I I don't know. That that feels like if if I've only got six watches and I'm trying to flex, that's that's where I'm gonna go. Uh for the record I I own that watch. I know you own that watch. Yeah, no no no. I I know you you win because you actually own that watch. Um but uh nice. So Ben just Ben just flexed twice. By the way, I have that watch too. Yeah, I'm just gonna flex twice. Um Okay, Jack. Jack. Up. Let's finish up first first round. We've got a vintage sport watch, a flex, and a vintage dress watch. What are you what are you closing out the first round with? I'm gonna st
Unknown art out light. Um I will not tread heavily in the beginning. I'm going to pick my uh modern sport watch. Okay. And um there's obviously a lot to choose from, but uh this one I have a little bit of a sentimental attachment to. It is the Seiko Prospects 1970 Divers Recreation Limited Edition SLA 033, also known as the Willard. Um, because it's a recreation of the watch uh worn by uh the character Captain Willard in the film Apocalypse Now, which I first which I saw in movie theaters when it first came out when you could still uh smoke in uh movie theaters in New York. Uh saw it in a midnight show. The good old the good old days the good old days. Um uh and I uh you know brought in a pack of unfiltered camels and smoked cigarettes and watched Apocalypse now and uh I remember noticing the watch. And um unfortunately this particular model sold out extremely quickly as the modern um SECA recreations of classic divers tend to do. Uh but I'd love to find one one of these days. I also realized by the way that I don't think I actually own any of the watches in my fantasy draft picks
Unknown . It's all right. You're allowed to do that. I just also want to point out the fact that you mentioned unfiltered camel cigarettes. I was gonna bring that up. Which you happen to have on your desk at this very moment. Right, right. He doesn't have the willard, but he does have the camel cigarettes
Unknown . But why do you have those SIGGI onS your desk? So it's an interesting question for you to ask, Carl, because uh every single person who works here who's come into my office has asked me that. And um I can only assume that my uh colleagues here at Odiki have not read uh the uh Tom Robbins novel Still Life with Woodpecker, which was a sort of a cult favorite novel in the nineteen seventies, nineteen eighties. Uh and in that book, I won't uh go into the plot, but A Pack of Camel Cigarettes is a sort of um motif, if you will, uh because uh the classic packaging for unfiltered camels, which hasn't changed in decades, uh has the two words on it choice and quality. Oh there you go. A short concise answer. Love it. Yes. All right, J
Unknown ack. You sir, what what do people think? So hopefully I've lulled you all into a false sense of uh confidence. What do people think of this pick? My instinct is super jacked. Yeah, it's very jacked. Yeah, very jacked. Jack. Not surprised. And you get to pick again. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Round two. Round one in the book. In the books. Round two. Pick number five. What's next, Jack? Oh, oh, oh,
Unknown I start now. Yeah, you start now. Uh so I'm gonna do complication, and this is actually something I think dramatically different from the modern sport watch uh pick. So there is a paddock fleep observatory turbion wristwatch movement, uh number 861115 with a turbulent carriage made by Bornand, who was one of the most famous uh turbion makers um in Switzerland the post-World War II era. And uh it was never cased. It was made for the observatory time trials. And uh in the nineteen eighties, uh Paddock Philippe President uh Philippe Stern uh took a fancy to it and decided that he would like it cased as a wristwatch and he had it cased as a wristwatch. And it is probably the pinnacle of it's, you know, a sort of an F1 car of watches, you know, with the technology of the period. Uh, you know, born on turbulence carriage, uh Guy on balance, plain steel, um, you know, overcoil, just it absolutely refined single purpose weapon for telling time as accurately as possible and winning the observatory time trials. And it is currently in the Paddock Fleet Museum. But if honestly, if there is one um you know classic high-grade Swiss watch that I wish I could get my mitts on and never will. It would be that one. Yeah
Unknown , you're you're never gonna own that one. No, I I'm I think it's pretty safe to say you're not gonna own that one. I me
Unknown an This is a fantasy collection. That's right. That's right. So Jack can dream. I mean it could happen. You know, Thierry Stern could wake up one morning and he could say, you know that Jack Forster, he's done so many services for Paddock Philippe in particular and the Swiss watch industry in general. I I'm gonna give him that watch. Yeah, maybe he's listening to this c pod
Unknown cast right now. Yeah, maybe not. Thierry, if you're listening, please hook Jack up. It would make him so happy. Hook him up, bro. All right. Okay. Stevie. I'm up next. Uh I think the vintage sport watch category is where there's gonna be the most competition. So I'm gonna go there next. Uh it's all about strategy. Submariner or explorer? I'm gonna go explorer. It's fair. I thought about it. It's on my wrist. It's on my wrist. Do you own that watch? I do own this watch. I know. Looking at it. It's very surprising. So shiny. But yeah, I did think, I have to say, after doing reference points to Mariner, I really did think long and hard. In this case, do I go uh suburb explorer? I'm gonna go with a guilt 1016, uh, preferably on a stretch bracelet, not unlike the watch I own. Um, but if we're going crazy here, I'm gonna up the ante a little bit and go space dweller. I was about to trump you on that. I was about to say space dweller. I gotta go space dweller. Um it's getting cutthroat. Yeah if we're going if we're going hard, I gotta go for the Wait, that was a that was kind of a what do they call it? An oop de oop? Oop de oop? Ally oop? Yeah, whenever they do the fake out with the ball. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was kind of what you just did there. That's not a fake out, but I I What's the phrase for the fake out? Head fake? Head fake. There's football, but I'm talking about football. I I I don don''t knowt know.. Okay, whatever, you faked us with that. Yeah. We went in ten sixteen and left with a space door. Yeah, I forgot we're doing fantasy. I keep thinking we're doing like what we would actually huge props to Cara for trying to work a football reference. I mean I would say athletic person, yes. You're welcome. I would say it's like what you would want to buy, but with an element of fantasy. Like it shouldn't be totally nonsensical, but like yeah, you can you can and this is why you prepare. No, you you can can go go hard and heart. Um I'd go ten sixteen. Uh Ben, you were up next. I mean if if this is like real fantasy, then like you know, I can fight fire with fiery. Yeah, let's go. Go for it. I want Neil Armstrong's Omega Speedmaster for my Vincent Sports Watch. I want the watch that went to the goddamn moon. Okay. Okay, might as well drop your mic now. If we're doing fantasy, like yeah, go for it. All right. Right? Like that's it. All right. So you dream big, that's good. It's it's the moon watch. Yeah. Nobody can pick Speedmasters. Any Speedmaster. Because I I now own Neil Armstrong Speedmasters. So assuming you couldn't own the actual Nealarm strong speedmaster, give us the rundown of what that watch is. So if you were to buy the watch that was just like it, what would it be? Manually wound, black dialed, three twenty-one speedmasters. I mean, you know, super understated, amazing watch. Yeah. Uh you know, I've owned 321 Speed Matchals. I currently have one. Don't own that one though. Yeah. No. No, you don't. But now I do. Now you do in the fantasy draft. It's the 105.003. There you go. Perfect. Uh I gotta say I'm I'm kinda surprised Speedy didn't go in the first round. I would agree. I thought Jack was for sure gonna say. Same here. I really thought that was happening. But he went complication first.
Unknown I did. I did. What did you pick again? Uh for complication?
Unknown That turby on the paddock. That's a that's a good watch. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good watch. But yeah. It's not terrible. It's not terrible. That's true. You should have picked Paul Newman's Paul Newman if you're gonna pick a Daytona. Oh shit. Well I would say we can keep the the like historic watches to a minimum since those are impossible. But you can do it. I was gonna pick my flex next. Okay. All right. You can go for it. All right. The Henry Greed Jr. Supercomplication. That's a good one. I just hang it on my desk. Should have that's a really good one. That's a really, really good pick. Tell people about that watch, Cara. What's the deal with that watch? That watch was commissioned by Henry Graves Jr. in, I believe, nineteen27-ish. But he got it during the depression, so it was like a really weird time. But it has 24 complications. I'm not good with numbers. 24 complications. And it's like this insane thing and on the back it has the stars that are above central park outside his beautiful apartment and on fifth avenue and it's sold for 24 million dollars at Sotheby's in Geneva where Aurel famously came back from being incognito for a couple years. And yeah, it's just a really crazy thing. It's is it the most complicated watch ever made up until the Caliber 89? Yesah. Uh ye. Yeah. Until the caliber 89. Yeah. But it's the mo no, it's the most complicated, all handmade, hand-assembled. But also the most complicated up until the caliber 89. Yeah. Yeah. I was in the room when I sold in Geneva with I was not. They didn't go. Mr. Will Holloway. There you go. Yeah. It's pretty wild. A real made, uh, quite quite the splash. That's what he does. Man in the red tie. Yeah, exactly. What was it? C B. You're back. You're back. Oh, you're feet. Okay. So that so I did Henry okay, what's it? Round three. I'm gonna do modern sports and go ahead because I don't want anyone to take this one. All right. Because I like I picked Daytona for like five of these. But and then like eliminated myself for all of these. But I'm gonna do the AP Royal Look 15450, the one I currently have and wear every day because I can confirm it's a great modern sports watch and I wear it every day and it brings me a lot of joy and I like it. So you don't want anything more than that for your modern. So you have a $24 million watch. Yeah. And then like we're going to the middle royal oak. Okay, don't speak so ill of my royal oak. I'm just curious. Yeah, of course. This is I want this to be, you know, what? Reflect me. Okay. Okay. This is my collection. I'm kinda shocked that we get one royal oak in this whole thing and it's a three hand date thirty-seven millimeter. No, well you guys should have picked one royal oak. Yeah. You guys should have picked one. Did you guys have Royal Oaks queued up for anything? Well I picked that one because it's thirty seven millimeters. It fits my wrist. Well, I don't know. Maybe not. I had I think my top pick for my like complication was gonna be maybe a uh 39mm uh QP Royal. All right. Well now you guys are making me feel bad about it. No, it's all good. Yeah, Cara. That would have been interesting. Why didn't you pick something interesting? I guess I'm just not interesting. Oh no. See what's gonna happen now is everybody's gonna vote for your collection and we're gonna look like idiots. So that's fine. No, I'm not even done with my collection yet. All right, Mr. Climber. Okay. We gotta pick up the pace here. You're on the board. Give me some categories again. We got uh vintage dress, vintage sport, modern dress, modern sport, complications, and flex. Okay, uh, I'll do uh complication, I guess. Mm-hmm. I'll do a 1920s Cartier Tortu Minute Repeater in platinum on a platinum bracelet with a movement manufactured by Automar P Gay. Ooh, okay. That also could be a flex. I mean it is a complication. I know what I'm just saying. That's that's a no-joke complication. Yeah.. Yep Why why that watch? I you know, I I remember seeing one in the first Phillips sale, the first you know, the you know re reborn Phillips, yeah, uh they had one that was pretty pretty special on a platinum bracelet, Cartier sign dial. I mean it was a Cartier, but AP made the whole thing. Yeah. Uh that to me is about as elegant. I love mini repeaters like like all of us, basically. Uh, and that is about as elegant of a watch, period, that you could get, especially on the bracelet. Uh, and then of course having real horological chops coming from Otomar P Gay. Uh, you know, they were basically uh AP Gay did, for example, the repeating mechanism in the the Henry Graves, you know. Right. So I mean it is uh they were really the only kind of game in town for repeaters at at that point in the twenties anyway. Yeah. Um so to have like the horological chops of AP and then have like the the style and kind of charisma of of Cartier and then in platinum, which obviously is a special thing. Uh it's just a it's a wonderful thing. Yeah. No, I totally agree. You jealous, Jack? I mean, no. I mean he owns Philippe Stern's uh Jack has Jack has the obser
Unknown vatory paddock. Yeah. I've got an observatory paddock. I I don' don't event even you know what? I I don't even want to calibrate uh the uh um the Henry Graves anymore. Jack looks his nose down at your Car
Unknown tier Otomar uh minute repeaters. Yeah it's you know what it's beneath me. Let's move on. Let's move on. All right, all right. Uh I'm up next. Uh I'm gonna go for my modern dress watch. Uh I'm gonna pick the Acrivia Chronomet Contemporane. Knew you'd picked that one. Yeah. Interesting. I mean, I can't. I should have picked that watch just because Steven was going to pick up the bigger steamy watch many more of like jumping on I think that was my favorite watch of two thousand eighteen. You love that watch. It's I love that watch. It's incredible. It's an amazing watch. Absolutely. It's also it's the first watch I've seen of that style, like a simple three-hand, like totally in-house watch that like it has a unique style, it has a unique approach. It's exceptionally well made. Um it's the first thing I've seen like that that that really blew me away and didn't just feel kind of like a Me
Unknown Too sort of thing. It's so convincing in person and you know as you say it it it actually has an identity of its own. It doesn't feel like a Me Too thing, which is very hard to do. Yeah. And also
Unknown I was, you know, I I think I've told this story here before, but like when I went to go meet with a Caribbean at Puzzle World, I did it sort of, we were invited to go meet with them, and I figured, why not like take the appointment? Uh and I knew they did great work, but I wasn't personally interested in any of their products before. And then I got something totally unexpected, something I I really just had no idea was coming. So I think kind of kind of knocked me off my feet. I'm I'm pretty uh pretty in love with that watch. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Jack, you got two picks now. In the round three, first of
Unknown round four. Okay. Uh so I'm gonna do vintage sport. Okay. I think this might be a little controversial. Oh boy. Um just in terms of pushing the boundaries of the definition. So my one my vintage sport pick is a paddock thirty four seventeen anti magnetic with uh the caliber twenty seven AM four hundred. And I think in steel, I think that's arguably a sports watch. I would say that is. You ag
Unknown ree. Yeah, I mean Well dang. It's the cl it's the closest thing Patek made to a sports watch in the vintage era, pre-nautilus,
Unknown of course, right? Right. So I would get by that. All right. Yeah and it's a like and it's uh you know it's a it's a very technical watch, anti-magnetic soft iron inner case, but like a super, super refined, I mean one of the most visually beautiful movements that you could, you know, ever hope for from paddock Philippe, you know, really at the height of their powers in terms of uh you know making and finishing uh you know beautiful time only movements. So there's it's uh it's sort of like the most elevated version of a Mark twelve you could possibly imagine. Yeah. Yeah. You know? That's true actually. I' nedver thought about it, but it is pretty similar to those those pilots' watches. Yeah. And you know, and like I said, there's a there's a purity of intent about it that I think kind of um really captures the essence of what a sports watch is and and also the essence of what a really great wristwatch is. Okay. Great. You're up again. The beauty of a snake draft. Ooh. All right. I think I'm gonna leave my flex for last. So modern dress. Um I'm gonna make a fairly non-controversial and I think probably extremely boring choice choice. But I've always wanted a gold tank Louis Cartier and I I still don't know. Yeah. Okay. Beautiful. Yellow gold
Unknown ? Yeah. Yeah. What's our guy? Stevie's type. Is anyone is anyone at all surprised that the guy who wrote the book on Cartier picked a Cartier? I mean, my my other possible choice was a Santos Dumas, so you know, probably which you may or may not have on your wrist right now. Right. So that means Cartier tanks are out. That means Cartier tanks are out. Yes. Jack got the tank. That's another one, honestly. Round four? I mean it's first pick a round four, but I'm shocked that the tank hung around that long. Yeah, I thought about doing that for vintage dress for sure, like a platinum Cartier. Yeah. How about you, Card? Do you have a tank on the list? Yeah, I think a centrae is not a tank. It it is a tank. But in my mind it's not. So I was gonna pick that for my vintage dress watch. It's called a tank, so it's a tank in the name. Okay, fine. Well I guess that's out for my dress wat Yeah. Okay, well it's not your turn. So you guys need to relax. It is, however, it is however my turn. Uh I'm gonna go with my modern sport watch. No, I did my yeah. You picked a visit. So modern sport watch actually I think is the category that gave me the hardest time. Because there's so many different directions you could you could go. I mean Ben brought up the fact you could go for like the white gold salmon dial royal oak you could go kind of a sport watch that's like a sport watch but it's kind of over the top. Um and I thought about you know 5711 thought about a bunch of different things, but ultimately, I think when it comes down to it, I think I'm gonna go tutor Black Bay 58. I think I'm gonna go So let's just stop right here. Is this a fantasy draft or is this because like that's not I'll buy you that tomorrow. You know what I mean? I won't actually for the record, but that's like that's like a few. It's fantasy. It's fantasy like fantasy football. It's like a fake collection. It's not fantasy like if you could own anything on the planet. Okay. Great. Um that's I just think like, you know, it's look, I have one. It's an amazing watch. I just think if you're gonna go again, if you're boiling a watch collection down to six watches and you've only got one modern sport watch, like I want something I can wear to the beach, I want something I can wear when I'm traveling, something that looks great, feels great, but that I I don't have to worry about. And that to me is one of the beauties of the Black Bay 58, is it's kind of like wearing a vintage sub, but you don't have to worry about it. Okay. Sweet. Uh Mr. Climber, you're up next. Uh so vintage dress watch. Uh I mean the the platinum centray on a bracelet black dial, that would be that's a killer watch. But can't do it because you've got to to get youok the tank. Yeah. Um okay, so I'm gonna go in a different direction and move over to Japan. Oh with Grand Seiko. Oh sticking it to Jack where it hurts. Well, maybe. So Grand Seiko, their very first watch, the 3180, they called it the first. They it's mostly known in gold, gold capped. You know, that's the kind of like the basic model. They made a few in platinum. Ah. Incredibly rare watch. I have frankly, and now I'm about to blow up this watch, so like I'll never get one. I've been hunting one for five years. Like they just don't exist. I was offered one once in Japan. It was like a hundred grand or like it was just like totally out of out of question. Um, it is to me one of the most elegant, understated, incredible watches ever made. It is the first Grand Seiko. It's platinum to to the idea that like Grand Seiko would jump from a gold-filled watch to a platinum watch uh for their very first watch uh is a pretty compell
Unknown ing thing. I have to say I think that's a brilliant and very imaginative choice. Thank you, Jim. the reasons that you've mentioned and it they're just you know as you say they're I I've never seen one. Yeah no I've I've never even heard of one. I've I've I've got like
Unknown one in my WhatsApp somewhere from some guy in the panel. I truly do if you want to see it. But uh it to me it's like it remains one of my holy grails. Like it's just it's such a special thing and uh it's it's pretty neat. So as as you guys know, you know, they did that re edition recently. Uh they did a re-edition in platinum, which I owned and bec I bought that because I couldn't get the original one, you know. Yeah. It's pretty neat. That's a super interesting picture. Pretty exceptional. Yeah. I think we're gonna have a hard time beating that in that category. Well no, I'm gonna beat it right now. There's reason you're the boss. Yeah, right. Uh C B thinks she can beat it. All right, let's go. For my vintage dress watch, I'm gonna do a Carnier. Was gonna do a tank centre, which I realize is a tank because I wrote tank right now in yellow gold with a bracelet. You played yourself. Pivot to one of the original Cartier crashes. Ah, that's a good one. This is for vintage dress. Yeah. That's pretty good. That's a good pick. Boom. How about that? That's another one. Uh I kinda I kind of expected you to pick that, I gotta say. Yeah. Oh, okay. It's great, it's a great pick. Yeah. I am, yes. Well, you know. So you said the original Cartier crash. What what are you talking about there? Uh the 1967 crash, which rumor has it it was a I think a benoir or a tank that was in a car crash. Yeah unconfirmed. Unconfirmed
Unknown this is folklore. Watch folklore which is my favorite kind of folklore. Trevor Burrus When I was working on the um the Cartier watchbook, I asked them for their official position on the uh origin story. And the reply I received was this is this is preserved as a legend as part of the heritage of the House of Cartier. Oh, so they agree it's folklore. Okay. No comment.
Unknown No, basically no. But it's the folklore. And so they came out of London because back in the day, Cartier only retailed out of Paris, London, and New York, and they were three different individually owned companies, basically.. Yeah Yeah. So each maison in each location produced different things and would sign different things. Like in New York, paddock would sign, but they would have like paddock signed by Cardi, so on and so forth. Um so yeah, so I just have always really loved the crash. And a lot of people think it's like a Dali watch, which like really irks me for some reason because it's not. Um But you could see why they would
Unknown think I could see why, but like it just I don't know why that bothers me so much. But I mean, you know to, be fair, it's not impossible that the m one of the design inspirations for the crash was actually Maybe. But I don't think we'll ever know. Yeah. Yeah. The painting in question is called the painting the painting in question is called the persistence of memory. Yeah, well, but they actually have a recreation in the London boutique now.
Unknown One per month. One per month. And it's the exact same proportions. It's smaller than the current model, the modern one that they make. It's really beautiful. So yeah, so that would be my vintage dress watch. And I get to go again. You get to go again. You're up. Boom. C B. So kicking off round five. For complications. I'm gonna do the 3448 in white gold. Ooh, that's a good watch. Uh perpetual calendar. I gotta be honest. Automatic. I was gonna pick that. You just sniped me. I'm so glad I did that because I saved my modern dress for last. Um, which was a strategic move. And yeah, so that's what I would pick for my complication watch because A, you can wear it. B, I just have always loved that watch. When I first saw it working at Sunday's, it left a huge impression on me because it was just like such a cool case and you said in in white in white okay um they did do them in platinum they did do them in platinum but I find platinum cold to the skin so interesting cold to the skin um I find platinum heavy which I love. Yeah, yeah. I'm a lady. It's just too heavy for my little dainty wrist to carry. So Okay. Sure. Let's just leave that. But it was the first automatic perpetual calendar um ever made, I believe. Yep. It's got that super minimal display. They call it the uh what do they call it? Padalone. Petalone. It looks like a space saucer. Yeah, no, a frying pan. Frying pan. Padalone is frying pan. I thought it was a spaceship. Padalone, large, large frying pan. No, Padalone's the 8171. Same. It's the same name for this. Same one, yeah. Well, you live and you learn, folks. Dis Disco Volante's flying saucer
Unknown . And which one watch is that? That is drop of knowled
Unknown ge. That is another watch. That's a lot of thirty for forty-eight, White Gold. Boom. Boom. Ben, you're on the clock. You got two picks left. So I've got my two modern watches left, right? Yeah. Two modern. Okay. So uh modern sport, I think like there's so many good options. So I'm gonna save that for last. Like there's like a bunch of stuff you really can't go wrong with, like so that that's the easy one. So modern dress, so many good things to choose from here. Langa one, proli Marie Langa. Uh you know the Richard Richard Langa I really like. A Roger Smith, Akari. But in the end of the day, uh, I'm gonna do four men. So you gotta go simplicity, but simplicity case number zero zero, thirty-four millimeters in white gold belonging to the man himself. Wow. There we go. Yeah, yeah. It's uh kind of hard to imagine a better modern dress watch. Right. I mean that kind of is the modern dress watch, right? Yeah. Uh even though it's 34 millimeters? Yeah. Yeah. I mean I I think if you know, again, I I think I'm still unclear of what fantasy means. That's fine. It makes the game more fun. But uh honestly it's better because we're getting collections that are not what I was expecting, which is way more fun. Yeah. No, I mean I think like I've had to I've had to make some mid-course corrections.. Yeah, it's good The 37 is better on the wrist for sure. I actually don't love the Guilloshe dial, which that one is, um, versus the Lacquer dial. Um, but I think you know, when you think of the history and you think of yeah even my own relationship with with Dufour, you know, it's such a that's like meeting him for the first time was such a a big moment in my career. He came to our summit when we did that, you know, and uh that would be a really that would be the dress watchdown as far as I'm concerned, you know. Yeah, makes sense. Can't really argue with that. Yep. Also, 34 millimeters, I think, is a pretty standard size wall. Yeah, it's pretty she can't. I think that's like a good move. Yeah. You jealous yet, Jack? I keep waiting for Jack to be jealous of something. Well, you know, the wonderful thing about watches is there's so many of them
Unknown . You are so zen. Man, Jack is Jack is coming to get a lightning right here. Yeah. It was the tea I made. It is. Is it the shoes? Yeah. It's the is it's the ayahuasca. Is it the four dollar uh Chinatown that is not chill at all, Cara
Unknown ? Straw sold Kung Fu shoes. Yeah. Jack's wearing kung fu shoes right now. Jack's wearing kung fu shoes. Oh I see that. Yeah. Okay. So how many multiples of those shoes would it take to get to one pair of those shoes? That's not we don't need to talk about that. That's a different episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't tell him that. Are we gonna do a Lux sneakers episode of Hudinky Rally? I feel like we can do that. Uh dude, you got me on the one da thaty I wear. Are those your YSL shoes? Oh boy. The one day that I wear expensive shoes were there we go. Very sharp socks. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Polka dots. Should we should we link those up in the show notes? The uh Ben Climber socks. I bet you we could sell them out. These were actually a gift to me from that sock company. Remember that? Which sock company? Whatever. This doesn't matter. Also, you always make fun of my golden geese when you're wearing your fancy sneakers. There we go. Oh look a look inside the Hodinky office. Yeah, maybe we can cut that segment out. Um all right. Uh I've got two picks left. You know, I'm gonna go for my complication since Kara thwarted me by picking the 3448 paddock. Well thwarted. I'm gonna go for the other Padalone. I'm gonna go 8171 uh Rolex which is the uh triple calendar moon phase, uh which you can read all about in the Hodinki magazine. Volume four written by me. Written by Mr. Climber, yes. Um yeah I'm gonna go for a steel 8171. Uh specifically the version that has the steel hands and the steel 12 at 12 o'clock, not the one that has the contrasting gold hands and twelve. Approved. Um for some reason I don't like the one with the gold markers. It's just that that contrast, two-tone contrast just doesn't work for me. But uh yeah, I'm not generally a complicated watch guy, but I like that this watch, despite being a triple calendar moon phase, still has that sort of clean uh, clean design, really open dial. Uh it feels like a complicated watch you could really wear every day. You do strike me as a time only watch kind of guy. It's kinda my kind of my shtick, right? Yeah.
Unknown Um good choice though. I like that one. Yeah. All right. Good. Jack? Jack. I mean, Steven, aren't simplicity and complexity merely two sides of the same coin? S
Unknown ure. We'll go we'll go with that. You're on the clock there, dude. You got two you got your last two picks to make.
Unknown Let's let's round it out. So I've got vintage dress and I've got flex left. All right. Uh so for vintage dress, and they have become four times as expensive uh as when I first got interested in them. I would very much like to re own an omega-30 T2RG uh chronometer. Um it's uh it's sort of the more approachable version of that uh born on that paddock born on turbion uh you know it's very a very, simple watch, but uh, you know, again, uh if the born on turbion represents the absolute height of precision timekeeping on a bespoke basis, this particular watch, I think, repr represents the absolute height of accurate timekeeping um from a mas you know uh in a mass-produced watch. It is a mass-produced watch, but made at a time when there was a tremendous, tremendous commitment uh across the board in the industry, uh I think, uh especially from the major makers, to really making things to a very, very high standard. And I've actually had a chance, I don't do much watch making any I don't do any watch making anymore as a hobby, but um I used to. And I actually had a chance to own one of these at one point and to work on it. And it was such a delight to work on it. It had obviously been made with the intention of making a movement that was extremely easy to work on, very watchmaker friendly. It seemed to just assemble itself when it came time to put it back together. So just a wonderful, wonderful, very simple, beautifully made machine. And um yeah, I I had one once. Um then you know made the colossal mistake of selling it and I I I would love to own one again. Yellow gold? Uh yes. And it has that sort of like semi-sector dialing, right? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And and uh there were uh there was somebody in I think Italy um like 10 or 20 years ago who was making very, very good and they were honest about it. They were reproduction dials, but very high quality because for some reason the dials on those have not um often they don't age particularly well. But it's just uh just from a mechanical standpoint, it's a beautiful, beautiful watch. Um, you know, just superb
Unknown . That's another very Jack Forester pick. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right, Jack, close it out. Round six. Flex. I'm excited to hear what Jack's flex is. Flex
Unknown so hard right now, Jack. So um this is uh a problem in watchmaking that I've talked about and written about in the past. Uh so this this is the Easter thing. Yes. This would be nothing if not predictable. Yeah. We are all playing true to form today. Hey, listen. I mean, I've been yakking about it for fifteen years and uh and nobody uh has even begun to think about tackling it as far as I can tell because it's a huge, huge problem. So what I would do is I would go to Vash Run and I would say, I'm gonna drive up to your manufacturer with a dump truck full of money. Here's what you just back it up. Yeah. Um yeah and uh what I would like is I would like a pocket watch uh which will show the correct date of Easter every year, and which will chime exactly at dawn at my home location on the date of Easter every year. So that's a the the interesting thing about this problem is you know, perpetual calendars, the cycle of of uh years repeats once every four years. So the cycle of Easter dates does repeat, but it repeats once every five million seven hundred thousand years. Uh so um watches that show the correct date of Easter, uh there was one um I think it was made by Constantin Shaken, we'll have to double check, but there was one that shows the correct date of Orthodox Easter. Um by the Gregorian calendar, it's much, much it's uh a harder calculation. Um the cathedral clock in Strasbourg is actually set up to show the correct date of Easter up until the year 999. Uh so it craps out at the year ten thousand and I I don't want that. Um, so the paddock caliber eighty nine shows the correct date of Easter, but it uses a I think it's a thirty plus year program wheel or it's some weird number, like a twenty-seven year program wheel. So if you were to apply the same solution to the entire um cycle of Easter dates with a program wheel, you would need a watch that was something like 18 kilometers in diameter. So you want Vashron to make you an 18 kilometer pilot? No, I want them to solve the problem of putting a uh the the of putting a uh uh the complication is called a computus. I want them to solve the problem of putting into a putting it into a practical size pocket watch. Okay. Um that's a flex
Unknown . Which would be extremely difficult to do. So you don't want a watch as much as you want like a Nobel Prize in physics. Yeah. And also, just to be clear on the rules here, we can pick things that don't exist. No, you can't pick things that don't exist. But I was gonna let Jack finish before I told him you can't pick things that don't exist. I could definitely come up with some cool shit. Yeah. So Jack, that's your ideal flex. What is your actual flex big thing that like. It's gotta be something you can go buy in theory. Like in theory, if you had unlimited money, you could go buy. I don't have to play by your soul crushing rules, man
Unknown . You're right. You're right. I'm the man. I'm I'm so boring. Uh the other the other pick is a 36mm yellow gold day date, modern production. There we go. Yellow gold. The vintage ones are great. An 1803 would be a great follow-up, but the modern one has a better movement. Right now, uh Rolex is making uh probably technic, definitely technically the best movements they've ever made. And uh I would just want that degree of precision, reliability uh and newness. Um, you know, because I've always wanted these wanted one of these watches. They're a little pricey. Uh, you know, uh gold day dates are a little pricey. But I would want something that didn't have somebody else's history associated with it and fingerprints on it because I want to make it all my
Unknown own. I love that Jack went for his flex watch. He went from a thing that doesn't exist and is a nearly impossible mathematical That's Jack. That's Jack. Oh man. I mean at some point you just give up. Yeah. Um all right, I'm gonna maybe break form here a little bit. Uh if we're going with something flex and we're making it not just a flexible spot, but an actual flex. But I thought it was a flex all along. That's fine. It's all good. That's what we're going with. We're running with it. Uh I'm gonna go with an RM35. Oh yeah. I remember the first time I picked one of those up, Ben and I were at an auction preview way back in the day. Uh, and then was like, hey, you gotta come check this out. And I was like, what the hell is this? Like it's Richard Meal. Like I'm not into it. And he was like, no, no, pick it up. And when you pick it up, your brain has this moment where it's like an object that size can't weigh that little. And I just laughed. Like I just it was just like a like a reaction. Cause you can't, you sort of like can't square it. It's uncanny. You know, so the first chance I had to handle one, I had exactly the same reaction and exactly the same thought. Yeah. And it's just like if if we're if we're going for something ridiculous, like that's a thing I would love to own. Just the the reactions you would get from people being like, oh, what is that? hand And you it to them. I think you'd get a lot of people interested in watching. The question is you would stick with the 35 or or you're referring to the 27? Because the 27 is the first one with the turbulence that's actually lighter weight. That's like the one that Nadal wears. The 35 is called the baby nadal which is almost as light no turbion oh you're right here's the here's the reason I'm going 35. Yeah the 27 is more interesting I like the colors the 35 comes in better so I I agree in general if you're talking about the 35 with the 27 01 which is the gray one. Oh I forgot about that watch. Oh that's true. Because it's all gray. And we all like Yeah, I forgot about that one. I think I'm gonna go with that then. I think I'm changing I think I'm changing my pick. Yeah. I forgot that the 2701 existed. Did you just blow up your I don't know. That would have been perfect. You just gave it away. Yeah, man, that's a giving away all your goods. That should have kept that for modern sports watch. Yeah. Also, no one's picked a sub yet. That's a good call then. That's what I'm saying. You're next. All right. Pick pick a sub. Yeah. Ends up next. It's shocking that we're in the last round and nobody's picked a submariner. Um, but this is a modern sub. So I have a uh no-date ceramic sub and I think it's about as good of a watch as you can buy today. But uh if I were gonna do it, I'd probably go yellow gold black dial sub modern. Wear it every day, beat it up. You know, a a yellow gold case on a modern Rolex, I think, is really nice. Uh and because it's modern, I could take it in the ocean, I could beat it up, and I think, you know, it would really show its age really wonderfully because it's soft, you know, because it's yellow. Yep. Uh yeah, yellow gold sub mono Rolex. Love that. Wearing that
Unknown watch on the beach is an awesome movie. It's a funny thing about yellow gold Rolex is you know for people who spend all of their time, you know, kind of addressing increasingly refined levels of taste in watches, it's uh you know it',s like um uh spending your entire life eating at fancy French restaurants because you have to write about them uh you know for the New York Times or something, and then you get to go to Peter Lucre and have a steak and you're like, Oh, where have you been all my life? You know, I mean it's like it's crass, it's uh on a certain level. It's crass, it's obvious it',s it's predictable, and absolutely delicious. That's exactly right. Couldn't said it better myself.
Unknown And to be clear, there are many options like the RM27. Had I thought about it, I would have chosen that. Uh you know, 5711 Steel is a great wash, 5711 P non-anniversary edition would be a great one. That was awesome. I mean modern sports watch is like there's no choices. Blackway 58 as you said is a sub gold. Boom. Boom. Alrig.ht. Alright Seabreezy. Closes out. Last pick. Alright, I'm doing a modern dress watch. That's my last category. And I am going to pick a bulgari serpente with the gold balls that rattle. They came out with it earlier this year. It's just amazing. I posted on my Instagram. I don't think we wrote about it. So is it like a rattlesnake watch? A little bit.. Okay Yeah, there's like there's like the it it has like all these like hand attached gold mini balls, and when you shake it, shake your wrist, they all shake. Oh, cool. It's amazing. It is amazing. And it's covered in like emeralds and diamonds, which I don't really like, but fine. You'll suck it up and deal with it. Yeah, I'll deal with it. But I mean the bulgri serpente next to any kind of Cartier is one of the most iconic ladies' dress
Unknown watches. And I just don't think my collection would be complete with it. It was a joke. Yeah
Unknown . That would be a good sports watch it would be a good modern sports watch a really good watch yeah but back to me
Unknown so oh yeah no I'm just kidding I'm done you know the interesting thing about this whole exercise is that you know you, sit down and say to yourself, Oh my gosh how, can I possibly you you make a choice and you kind of feel emotionally committed to it. But there you I was kind of joking before when I said there's watches there are so many of them, but there really are. Yeah. Yeah. So many of them are
Unknown . It's hard to choose. No, it's true. And it's you know, there's a couple things I'm surprised nobody picked. We have no nobody picked a Nautilus. Nobody picked a GMT. Yeah. Uh you know, the Submariner made it to the second to last pick, which I I really thought was gonna go much uh much earlier. But uh for no other reason than to undermine one's colleagues. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Um yeah, but like you said, there's there's a lot of a lot of good options out there. There's a lot of great stuff. So I mean it's hard to have just six watches. Yeah. I mean, would you be happy with your six watch collection here? Yes. All right. So let's run through the collections real quick. Let's go uh with who drafted first. So Kara has a steel non-Paul Newman Rolex 6239. She also has the Henry Graves Super Complication. She has a Royal Oak 15450 in steel with uh I assume you want the one with the dark gray dial. Yeah. The same one that you want. It's called Ruthinium. Oh, sorry, sorry about that. Uh she's got an original Cartier Crash. She's got a Paddock Philippe Padalone 3448 perpetual calendar I would be pretty happy with that. I gotta say, I
Unknown gotta say, Cara, your your auction background is showing. Yeah, that's true. Which is fine. You know, it's just no it's not a criticism, it's an object. No, yeah. It's just who uh it's dermis is showing
Unknown . It only took us a little over a year to make that joke on the show. That was a third grade classic. That's what happens when you get the four of us in a room at the end of the day. Yeah. Um so we're looking at what? It's it's AP, it's paddock, it's Rolex, and it's Cartier. That's Carl. And Bulgary. And Bulgarie. Okay. Um let's go then with I picked next. So I've got the uh 1016 Space Dweller. I've got the Crivia Chronomet Contemporane. I've got the Paddock 2526 in white gold. I've got the Rolex 8171, and I've got the uh Richard Mill RM27 Nadal. It's pretty pretty good. I would take those six watches. Very solid. Oh, and the Black Bay 58. Black Bay 58. Yeah. So uh then we've got Mr. Climber. Um Mr. Clymer has the uh 1563 that belonged to Duke Ellington. Ben also has Neil Armstrong's Omega Speedmaster, because of course. What do you get the man who has everything? Neil Armstrong Speedmaster. We have a 1920s Cartier Tortue Minute Repeater Platinum Platinum Bracelet movement. We've got the first Grand Seiko in platinum. Uh platinum. A lot of platinum. We've got Philippe Dufour's number double zero white gold simplicity. A lot of first, too. Uh and then we've got a yellow gold black dial modern sub. That feels pretty Ben Climber's. A whole bunch of totally insane banana things and then like a modern yellow gold sub. Yeah. Um and then closing things out, Mr. Jack Forester. Yes. Jack has the modern Seiko Willard reissue. Jack has the paddock observatory turbulence that was cased as a wristwatch in the 1980s. Good watch. Really good watch. Jack also has the paddock 3417 He also has a yellow gold Cartier tank Louis Cartier. He also has an Omega-30T chronometer in yellow gold. And then finally, Jack's favorite watch, the thirty-six millimeter yellow gold day date. Plus a modern one. Plus an entirely made up watch. Yeah. Plus a watch that does not exist. Yeah, Jack solved the problems of the universe with his collection. All right. So what we're gonna do here is we're gonna put these collections uh in the article that is associated with this story and there will be a link in the show notes and on Hodinky.com uh and it's your job to go in and vote who has the best collection here. Uh which of these collections uh do you think is is worthy of the first ever Hodinki fantasy draft uh prize. I don't know what we're gonna call this prize, but we're gonna give it a name and we'll we'll uh crown a winner on a future episode. So our producer Gray will do a dramatic reveal. Uh you'll have a little more than a week to vote. Uh and then we will do a dramatic reveal in probably uh two weeks' time. Any any favorites? Any odds on favorites? What does the winner get? I don't know. Glory. We'll come up with a we'll come up with a prize. I'll task Gray with that. We'll uh what if we get our flex watch? Yeah, like if I win I get
Unknown the Henry Gaye's super complication. Okay. So just to be clear, uh to listeners, this is in fact a popularity contest. No true. Yeah. Of watches.
Unknown Of watches. Yeah. Mm. I'm with Jack on this one. Yeah. Uh yeah, well maybe why should have been so mean to me about my AP choice? Coming out of this, we think anyone's an odds on favorite? I think you gotta go with Jack.. Yeah Oh whole bunch of classic yellow gold wat
Unknown ches. And made up ones too. I mean the interesting thing about everybody's choices is they're so car I mean, it's not a surprise that this is the case, but they're they're very different choices. They're very characteristic of each person. And they're all interesting. Yeah. And you know, and for different reasons. Which is beauti
Unknown ful. All right. This uh I think this counts, despite the fact that none of us were playing by the same rules or had any idea what we were doing. I think I think we pulled this one out. I'd say so. Did you ask did you literally enjoyed it? Did you so did you literally mean that flex meant like flex like flexing your boss? No, not at all. In in actual fantasy football, that you have to draft by position on the team, and there's a spot that's the flex that can be a running back, a wide receiver, or a tight end. It can be any offensive player. Oh, I thought it was like flex. No, no, it's short for flexible, but like I actually like the way Caras spun the rules here. So we we ran with it. Right. Yeah. So to speak. So so to speak. There we go. Uh so if you made it this far, thank you for sticking with us. And uh yeah, let's uh may the best uh man or woman win here. Sounds good. Great. All right, see you guys soon. This week's episode was recorded at Hodinki HQ in New York City and was produced and edited by Grayson Korhonen. Please remember to subscribe and rate the show, it really does make a difference for us. Thank you, and we'll see you next week.