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Hidden Gem Watches

Published on Sun, 24 Apr 2022 12:45:00 +0000

Watches that either didn't get the attention they deserved or are primed for a second look.

Synopsis

In this episode of Hodinkee Radio, hosts James Stacey, Danny Milton, Jack Forster, and Logan Baker discuss overlooked and underappreciated watches that deserve more attention. The conversation begins with an announcement that Hodinkee is moving to seven-day content scheduling, with the podcast now releasing on Sundays instead of Mondays.

Each host presents three "hidden gem" watches throughout the episode. Logan highlights early Breguet Marine pieces and the collaboration between JLC and US Navy SEALs. Jack champions rectangular watches with shaped movements, including the Longines Cabaret and the Tudor North Flag. Danny focuses on accessible options like the Omega Seamaster Railmaster and the Hublot Classic Fusion 38mm. James discusses the Tag Heuer Aquaracer WAN2110, the Omega Seamaster GMT "Great White," and the innovative Longines Conquest VHP GMT with its unique phone-syncing technology.

The hosts explore why certain watches fade from collective memory despite their quality, often overshadowed by flagship models or changing brand strategies. They note how vintage-inspired designs have dominated recent releases, making contemporary designs from the 2000s feel forgotten. The discussion emphasizes the value proposition in the pre-owned market, where exceptional watches can be found at accessible prices. The episode concludes with additional honorable mentions, including various IWC models, Blancpain pieces, and the Oris Der Meister Taucher regulator dive watch.

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James Stacey This episode of Hoodinky Radio is proudly brought to you by Rado and the new Captain Cook Overpole. Planning to visit some far flung locale? Just spin the bezel to start your adventure right on time. Please stay tuned for more information later in the show or visit Rado.com for all the details. underappreciated, you know, hidden gems. Each of us has three watches that we think either never got the attention they deserved or are worthy of a relook within the modern market context. My apologies in advance if we shine a light on something you've had your eye on the right. Hey guys, how we doing? Doing good. Doing well, James. Good good. Can't complain. Yeah, I think this is always a fun one. This is one of my favorite topics is to try and think of watches. Ev even ones that came out just recently that just for whatever reason, you know, even within the hoodinky context, we can't cover absolutely everything and sometimes you just don't get to something for six months or or it's something you remember from five years ago and then you wonder, well, why do I never see that in the wild? So I think this will be a plenty fun chat. I do want to get through uh just a little bit of shop talk at the top here. Just a heads up, as many of you may have noticed, Hodinky is now like a seven day a week content layout. So Saturday and Sunday are getting a full story schedules and special weekend projects. And so in support of this change, Hodinki Radio will now come out on Sundays rather than Mondays. I don't think this is really going to matter to those of you who prefer your show for your Monday morning commute or whatever. But if you'd rather make as part of your Sunday afternoon plans, just check the feed because it should go up uh Sunday mornings from now on. Also, just a quick note of disclosure here is some of the watches we mentioned over the course of the show are available either new or pre-owned in the Hoodinky shop or Chroniccalibur.com. As always, we maintain and enjoy complete editorial independence, but disclosure is important and now you've got it. Yeah, that I think that's all we've got for kind of news at the top of the show. Uh you guys want to jump into some hidden gems? Let's do it. All right. I'm gonna give the uh the first pick to uh and it's not really a draft, but it, you know, I wonder how many of these we can actually get through because I'm looking at Logan's list and there's a lot to talk about here. I think it's good one. So Logan, how about you drop your uh your first kind of uh overlooked watch? Yeah. So uh I want to spotlight the kind of early first generation and second generation Breguet marine pieces, which I think are a really kind of interesting footnote in Breguet's history as the brand was kind of evolving in the modern era. Of course, today we have the third generation of the Marine, which it's not exactly to my taste, it's a bit uh a bit bold in its styling cues, but I really like kind of the classy nature of the original first generation pieces, you know, guilloset dials, coin edge bezels, super thin, just really lovely, lovely pieces. Jack, you've been around a couple of those in your time, right? Yeah, yeah, I certainly have. Yeah, I think they had the the old uh Frederic Piquet movements in there, or at least some of them did. Um the the first generation came in 32 and 36 millimeters. There's yellow gold. I think there were some two-tone options. Yeah, that's going back aways. And then in the second generation, which started in like two thousand five, I believe, I really like the big date alternative. And you can kind of see the design lineage from that original first generation, which was very much kind of classic brigade. And then the second generation got a little bigger, a little uh more aggressive looking, I would say. And now the third generation has really kind of pushed that to the edge. Logan, I think that's a great starter pick. And the one that you posted is one of the early ones in gold with the sort of dual finish silver tone dial. The thing that always stands out for me for these are the hands, are so distinctive and kind of special. And you wouldn't necessarily look at them in a vacuum and think like, oh very super legible. But then you see them in the in the overall layout and they have this sort of old world sportiness, but also this like dressy elegance to them at the same time. think uh you really see the charm of the brick identity in these early pieces that I I don't want to say is lost in the current generation, but it's uh definitely a different take. I I don't disagree. Yeah. I think it's great. What do you figure the starting point is on something if you wanted to get into one of these. Obviously we're looking at one that's in full gold that's had sold at one point for fifteen thousand dollars. I don't I don't know. Uh w is is the starting point in these a little lower than that if you go went with a different material? Yeah, I think I saw one at Wright Auctions in Chicago that's coming up where the low estimate uh was like three or f you know, I th I think the reserve was three or four thousand. You know, it starts pretty pretty approachable, I would say, especially for, you know, something uh like a bregay. Yeah, I think this is a good good example of one that probably got plenty of attention back in the day, but isn't really talked about these days. Jack, you want to drop us one? Yeah. One of the things that I think about a lot are watches that I wish brands had not discontinued that they uh that they've discontinued. And usually there's, you know, commercial reasons. So of course I I get to feel all high and mighty about uh you know loving something that that was uh rejected for economic rather than aesthetic reasons, uh which is always a nice feeling. So um one of my favorite watches that is no longer on the market that I wish was on the market is the Longanzona Cabaret, which uh is a rectangular watch, came out in nineteen ninety-seven, big date, small seconds, several different precious metals. The first one was actually done in pink gold. And um you know, I just I I I miss rectangular watches. I think that in a lot of respects they well, I mean obviously I don't know 90% of the watches in the world that are sold are are are round watches and having a uh a beautiful, elegant, you know, sort of tank adjacent, but definitely with its own identity, beautifully finished rectangular watch from Long and Zona. It was a nice thing to have. And um the art of the rectangular watch is is kind of an endangered species right now, you know, especially with a shaped movement. Um there just aren't many of them out there. And um uh this would be I think I think this would be a fantastic one for for Longa to bring back. They did a Honvirks Kunst cabaret a while back, a turbine, which was absolutely beautiful. And I thought maybe it heralded uh the return of the uh of the watch to you know Longa's regular product line, but uh no, no d diceice.. No They were working on they were working on something else. They were working on a steel sports watch, you know? So Man, I've never seen one of these in person. Jack, I assume you have? Uh yeah, but not not not for quite a while. Um, you know, they didn't make that many of them and they didn't make them for very long and the people who owned them seemed disinclined to part with them. So, um God, I can't remember the last time I saw one. Six, seven years ago at um at a meetup in New York, I think was uh, you know, you know, was when I saw it. And it was just like, you know, I mean, nothing wrong with the automatic watches from Longa, but to me, um Longa's on is always kind of gonna be a hand wound watch company and you know, having this like beautiful hand wound movement and this, you know, beautiful kind of like sculptural case Yeah, the case is neat. It's it's uh very decuey sort of thirties and then the way that it kind of matches up with the dial and uh would you call those like um like a cleft lug or uh uh clock, like a claw foot lug, something like that. I'm not sure the exact term. There probably is a term. Yeah, I don't know. We'll we'll put it in the show notes if you don't know the capri. Check it out because these are these are pretty rad. I'm I'm very much about this yellow gold one with the moon phase and the grand date. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're nice, right? Very. In the uh four plus one that we ran in January of this year with uh Jane Chan, who uh is part of Watch Club Society and HSNY, she had a cabaret with the original Wellendorf uh bracelet, uh which is just gorgeous. Oh wow. She has some incredible watches. Oh yeah. Yeah, really great stuff. Man, this is a super fun pick. Uh Danny, what do you what do you think? You want you you want your longa to be rectangular or or heck no. Give
Danny Milton me a circle. I wouldn't have thought so until I saw this. I actually was very unfamiliar with this watch until just this moment, which is I think a testament to uh the hidden gem aspect of it. And it's it's it's beautiful. Yeah super beautiful. It's beautiful both front and back. You get like the full Longa design DNA in an in a completely different watch, which is really really something when a brand can kind of capture that no matter what the case shape is. I mean, the speaking of the Odysseus Jack, I mean they do it again there. So you you see that that that iconography, that that design language, and I I would wear a cabaret, 100%
James Stacey . Yeah, yeah. And if you click the link on this one, also don't not scroll down about halfway. There's a version called the Nota Romana. Really, really cool, really pretty sort of execution that kind of it's almost like along a one version where you have kind of a decentralized series of of sc scales and and sub sub displays. It's uh I think this is super cool. Good pick, Jack. Really good pick. Well thank you. I'd I would love to see one of these in person. Yeah. I would like to own several. But I don't feel like that's I I would accept that as well. Danny, how about what have you got for us for your first uh sort of suggestion? It is
Danny Milton nothing like a long a cabaret, I'll put it that way. The list has a lot of variety. Totally. But I took this I kind of took the list and interpreted it about uh for watches that we just they just don't get a lot of attention. Uh there they were maybe they were popular at one time, maybe they weren't. But I went with the Omega Seamaster Railmaster that came out I, don't know, five or so years ago maybe,. I just think that that is and it's an existing skew for Omega. It's still there in the collection. We just, you know, with all of the the Speedmaster news, the the C Master proper news, more the like the dive sea masters. I think this one just sort of got lost in the the sort of modern current generation of just like how many new sort of uh vintage inspired watches can we get? But I think this watch is very cool because I think it marries modern and vintage in a very unique way. Vintage just more so in tone, but modern and everything else. Fully brushed everything case, 40 millimeters closed case back anti-magnetic just a really good sport watch super wearable and I um I just think after it came out I think there was some excitement behind it and it just was just sort of we just forgot about it. Yeah. And and that' thats's kind of how I think about a hidden gem
James Stacey . I could have done the my entire list of picks and a list of alts that are just omegas because any omega that comes out has to live under the shadow of a speedy pro. Right. So like you you could do you could do overlooked speed masters. Oh you totally could. Because there there's some interesting stuff in there, stuff that people forget exists. Speaking of overlooked speedmasters, like when are the uh the marks ever gonna get their their uh you know time in the sun. I mean uh yeah that's right or like the speedy one twenty five you know for sure yeah I mean everything's like speed master speed master speed master speed master but of course there was like the Mark II and I I mean there was whole plethora of other other marks, including uh one, you know, one of my favorites, the so-called Teutonic Speedmaster. And uh I don't know, they don't seem to be attracting the kind of attention that you would expect given the level of enthusiasm that you see for uh the Moonwatch, which is Yeah, and the more you think about it, the weirder it seems. Yeah, I I definitely thought that the when they redid the Mark II um six years ago, seven years ago, uh with a racing dial, and then they did the kind of three-tone dial for one of the whatever the Olympics was at the time, I definitely thought that was going to be a more popular I thought I was going to see it more frequently, be it on Instagram or on people's wrists or whatnot. I really love that racing dial. I know that a lot of people, especially now if you're looking at them using the caliber thirty three thirty versus say a thirty six eighty one or even an eighteen sixty one, I could see the point of starting to do some well, I if I'm gonna spend this much money, I do want but but it the the thirty three thirty is some you know, coaxial and and and all that kind of stuff, but I do wonder if we'll see an updated movement in that lineup or if that lineup will kind of quietly go to the wayside and we'll be talking about it uh in a similar podcast in a few years. I'm not sure. I mean that said, like I I paid eight hundred and fifty bucks for a Mark II a million years ago, you know, like back when dinosaurs ruled the earth. You know, it was uh it was a great looking watch, but it always and I I I ha I had my first um uh moon watch at that point. And and I have to say, despite the fact that I knew sort of like the history of the Mark II and that it was really like an overt attempt as opposed to the Speedmaster on the part of Omega to make a um a watch for for a crewed space flight, I I don't know. I like I would pick it up and I would put it on and like by the time like at nine o'clock in the morning, and by the time it was three o'clock in the afternoon, I was like, Yeah, but it's not a moon watch, is it? It's not a moon watch, is it? It's a big shadow. It's a big shadow. You know what I mean? Uh but yeah, Danny, I think for the railmaster, uh this is a really cool watch. Do you remember they did one that kind of had a denimy dial, or am I mis misremembering that? Silvery with the heavy brushing, then there was a later one. Yeah, denim dial with red
Danny Milton accent for the text for Railmaster. So Canadian tuxedo in the making for sure. That's right. That's right. And I think a denim a denim y strap. Yeah too. If I remember correctly
James Stacey , yeah. Kind of kind of a a a full den yeah, full denim, you know. I I do really like these. I also really I I enjoy seeing the like modern Omega case in full brushed. Yep. Um I think it's kind of a neat, a neat treatment. Logan, have you had any recent experience with a with a railmaster? Like since this one came out? I I really like the current gen for the the railmaster, especially in that kind of size format. Um I do wanna point out though that the the early two thousands railmasters are also super underrated. They are very those are cool. Those are really great. And those are a great great deal. Two or three thousand dollars, uh Ranchero style dial. It's cool. For sure. Yeah. And at this you could we could say all all rail masters. Give them a look if you don't if if you don't kind of have that catalog in your mind for sure. I mean
Danny Milton , it's funny because that was the the year that the trilogy came out. So you had the the trilogy railmaster and the seamaster railmaster released simultaneously, which is strange, and they're very different. And technically, the sea master railmaster is a seamaster, not a railmaster, which I think is always funny. Absol
James Stacey utely. All right. So I'm gonna go in for mine so we can kind of keep this train rolling because it might end up being a nice long episode. Man, I'm I'm torn. I'm torn. Okay, I think I'm gonna go with the tag hoyer, and this is one that I owned and really enjoyed, you know, about a decade ago, maybe a little a little less than that, and that's the Aquaracer WAN2110. So at the time, the and I think in many ways it is still, but at the time the Aquaester line was really divided up between three hundred meter versions and five hundred meter versions. And the three hundred meter was a forty one millimeter watch. It was about twelve millimeters thick. In my mind it like falls right into the same zone as the kind of now substantially last generation, several generations back, uh Omega 2254, the sword hand sea master, which wasn't super thick, wasn't super wide, super wearable. These you can get them. I mean, back in the day, I paid like $1,300 maybe Canadian for one that I bought and wore for a while and then sold for the same money. These days they're floating around two grand, I I f found a handful for less. And I mean, sure, it's a it's a base, it's tag cal five, but that's also means you could get it serviced just about anywhere. It has a nice aluminum bezel, good loom, a nice simple dial. I think you could dress it up, dress it down, works well on a NATO. I I think these are a little bit unsung, especially because as soon as Tank went to the next generation of these watches, they got way more expensive. This was kind of the end of like a three hundred meter uh aqua racer for under two grand
Danny Milton . Yeah, I like I like these. I mean these this to me speaks to the whole idea of what Taghoyer is, you know, at at its core, which is an amazing entry point to watches, but also a watch you can just kind of wear forever if you really feel like it. That's a great pick because now, with the sort of introduction of the 40 millimeter aqua racers of late, you I know they're not 300 meters water resistant, but you're seeing a return to this a similar kind of ideal behind Taghoyer. So I think that's an awesome pick. I actually don't I don't see those very often. Usually I sort of in my mind skip from like 90s Taghoyer to sort of the more modern aqua racers. And and to your point, like there's this whole middle section where they were still doing that core stuff. And I I think it's a it's a great pick. Yeah. And I mean like
James Stacey taste is obviously super, super subjective, but for me, this is where the Aqua Racer kind of had the most of its own identity. We didn't we didn't have the Mercedes hands, the kind of Rolex adjacent handset. And I think this is this is where it hit a certain zone that then kind of is where the Aqua Racer has come from beyond that. And of course now, you get a higher higher tech build and and um the ceramic bezels and things like that. But I still think there's a lot of merit to this watch for what they cost today, and knowing that you could take it to your local place and get it serviced without really Okay, it's time for our ad break, and we couldn't be more thrilled to have Rado supporting this episode of Hodinky Radio for the launch of the new 60s inspired Captain Cook Overpole. Measuring 37mm wide with a steel case and limited to just 1,962 individually numbered units, this mid-century design blends a sporty presence with a jet set ready ceramic city bezel to aid in tracking the time all over the world and at a glance. Water resistant to one hundred meters in housing Rado's R eight six two manually wound movement, the Captain Cook over pole has a date function on its silver to black gradient dial and an impressive power reserve of 80 hours. Add to that the easy clip strap changing system and an included steel bracelet and brown leather strap and you have a stylish and easy wearing watch regardless of where your adventures may take you. With a list price of two thousand four hundred dollars, the Rado Captain Cook Overpull blends function and old world charm into one globetrotting package. Check the show notes or visit Rado.com for more details. And let's not forget a big thanks to our friends at Rado for supporting this episode of Hodinky Radio. Let's get back to the show. All right, so that's my first pick: a solid little tag diver. Let's loop back with Logan for his second. What do you got for us? Yeah. So uh the next piece is the JLC master compressor diving automatic US Navy SEALs limited edition. Uh so late 2000.s Oh yeah. Yeah. It's a late 2000s. It's a big guy, uh 44 millimeter, uh, but designed in collaboration with uh the US Navy. Uh it's got a really cool high contrast stencil font on the dial, some master compressor crown uh with winglet systems. So you just kind of spin the crown around just one way and it opens. And I don't know. It's just I think it's a really attractive for what it is. And it JLC doesn't really make anything. Like I mean you could say that the Polaris line has kind of replaced uh the master compressor series as the their sport watch offering, but it doesn't really have the same, I don't know, kind of contemporary design panache that uh that I think the master compressor did. That was a very distinctive, it was their own design language, while the Polaris is kind of very nice, it's a beautiful collection, but um it's vintage diver centric, uh building off the memox vibe, of course, but you know, it's something that I feel like w other brands have done. The master compressor felt kind
Danny Milton of very wholly their own thing, which I like. Completely agree. This feels like the the like the end of we can still make things originally fun without having to worry about whether it's vintage inspired or what people are going to think about it. And I I I may not wear this watch, but I think it's very cool to see designs like that. And the little bit of a shame that we don't get more things like this these days. So I think it's an it's an awesome pick. Yeah, I
James Stacey really missed when JLC had this really sporty Ben. Um, and I think they'll come back to it. Every everything moves around and shuffles and the rest of it. But I remember this being a really sweet time, and it kind of faded out with that chronograph dive watch the the that they made. I yeah, I I I think this is such a sweet You know, you you look back um for the respective of twenty twenty-two when we've just been inundated with vintage inspired, vintage adjacent, um vintage resurrection, vintage reincarnation watches. And um I think, yeah, it's it's a really it's a really great point. I mean, this is a contemporary technical dive watch that doesn't really look back to anything in in JLC's past. It was just, you know, a modern, high-quality, high-grade, 300-meter water resistant sports watch, and it kind of had, you know, it had its own character. And I like these a lot. There were some things about some of the designs that never quite gelled for me, but this particular model I think is is pretty terrific. Man, they did a press event with the uh US Navy SEALs uh that I was not able to participate in, but um gosh, this is going back a while. You couldn't get clearance. No, it wasn't that. I I think it there was there was something something going on with the family, but uh apparently it was kind of brutal. They had a they had a uh like a a little sort of like mini Hellweek experience, which is not the kind of thing that that most must watch everyone walked away. Sign up for Yeah, I mean, you know, you go to a watch event and you think to yourself, well, there's gonna be a sit down dinner in an open bar, maybe some shrimp. Some shrimp, yeah, a little shrimp cocktail, maybe some shrimp puffs, maybe some gougers. And like, you know, instead what they got was like sitting on sitting on your knees and freezing cold surf while an actual US Navy SEAL yells at you, You wanna ring the bell? You wanna ring the bell? You wanna ring the bell watch rider? Goodness sakes, that's so gnarly. All right. Uh uh Logan, great, great pick on that one. I like it quite a bit. I think uh a solid pull from a really cool era of uh of sport watches. Jack, uh ball's all yours. What's uh what's your next shot? Well the whole subject of rectangular watches with shape movements is one that's very dear to my heart and you know there's so many of them that I miss. But you know, there's there's a watch which I think I I wonder if I'm like the only person in the world who's kind of sad that it's not around anymore, and it's the Tudor North Flag. Okay. Like I I dug the North Flag. Yeah, I mean, I I'd had a kind of a quirky design, and I I don't know, I the the power reserve might have been a deal breaker for some people, but I always felt like it was one of those watches that, you know, that there's always a gap between what you experience when you look at a photograph and what you experience if you actually, you know, see a watch in person. And I mean, there's no it's it's it's no good complaining about it. I mean, most people nowadays see watches for the first time as a photograph or as a r a render, which is even worse. And they make a decision about whether or not they like it in you know less than 30 seconds, and that's kind of it. And the North Flag was obviously much more visible on the internet than it was visible in person. But every time I had a chance to try one on, I I liked it a lot more than I thought I was going to. I thought it was a really cool watch and a neat design. And um I don't know. I kind of wish it was still around. That said, I never actually bought one. Um, like I have a couple of Tudor watches. Um, you know, one is a Ranger and one is a uh Black Bay um with an Edda movement from six years ago. And uh despite my kind of like I I liked the North Flag the way you like the next door neighbor's dog that's like a really sweet dog and you like hanging out with it, but it's not a breed that you would actually want to own. Okay. Does that make sense? I mean most dogs for me. Other people's dogs are great. Yeah. Yeah. I think the North Flag is is uh is an interesting thing because I think it just got overshadowed. Not in a way super dissimilar from the speedy, but just man, like the heat on the black bay line for the last, you know, what, seven or eight years has been so much that you know, tutors, tutors introduce a handful of kind of subsidiary watches or other watches into their lineup that people glance at and then immediately go back to the Black Bay. And I think that's what happened to the North Flag. You know, I I know only a couple folks that had them, of course Brett Curry who shot a bunch of stuff for for us, wears one all the time and and uh looks great doing so. Yeah, I'm absolutely a fan. In many ways, I think that the the new Black Bay Pro is a little bit of a can an attempt at a continuation of that of that spirit with the black the matte and the black and the yellow and that kind of stuff, obviously a different a different sort of take and and a different overall aesthetic. But I definitely remember these kind of fondly and and I thought they were a a pretty unique uh look for for Tudor as far as a move goes.
Danny Milton I like them a lot actually when it came out. And I think it's gonna end up going down as a very important watch. I mean de,pending on what the trajectory of Tutor becomes in the future, because it was the first watch to introduce an in-house movement for Tudor, which is interesting. You would think, I don't know how popular Black Bay was in the moment, but that they would have done that with a Black Bay. But to do that through the North Flag, I thought was pretty interesting. Also, a watch that didn't have any, you know, unlike the BB Pro, that's not a vintage aesthetic to the dial design, but the K the case design integrated bracelet design was very 70s oyster quartz, you know, esque in terms of uh shape and design.
James Stacey So I I I liked it. Yeah, I don't I don't disagree at all. I think it's uh I think it's a solid pick, Jack. Not what I was expecting. I thought we were gonna see another square watch with uh, you know, a shaped movement or something like that. We're we thought we were going for uh a whole run. You you may you may yeah. You may yeah. I mean that was uh you know, I w it's like I I y you know, was I was driving down the interstate, I knew what my destination was and then I you know saw a a sign for a restaurant called Fork in the Road and I was like, Well, I gotta check that out. Sure. Yeah. All right, Danny, uh you're up next. What uh what's your second pick for us? I'
Danny Milton m going for a watch that I just sort of think is fun. Think it's fun, I think it's a hidden gem, and I'm gonna just say it now. I'm going for the the the bulgary. I think you actually pronounce it aluminium GMT. I know that we don't talk about these that often. We talk about you know the octofinissimo for the most part, if we ever talk about bulgary. But this is one of those rare times where like 90s design is back, 90s design is brought back in full force. You have an automatic movement. It's it's pure fun because it sits at a price point. It's not necessarily a value proposition, I would say, in any way. I mean, it's still an expensive watch. But what you're getting with the the red and the blue, you know, it's just a fun it's a fun way to get into a GMT if you're not looking to have the same old, you know, stainless steel sport watch look that most other brands are offering that in.
James Stacey It's definitely a pivot from the normal, even even the norm within you know, you get it is the blue, the blue red. So you get to tie back to whether it's a GMT master or Black Bay GMT or or whatever you you put in your mind when you think of that kind of stuff. And sure, it's um, you know, with in this case it's a um uh a caller GMT, but also you're not paying typical flyer money either at this point. The flyer prices are starting to come down as as Eda starts to use that CO7 movement more frequently. But I think um I think these are a gem. It's one that came out during the pandemic, so I haven't seen it in person. But I would love to try it on. I think the the overall mix, my my general love of heat, maybe add a couple bracelets and uh and you know run around LA shouting loudly and give me everything you got James. I I would think I think I would really enjoy it. James, I have uh I have one of their aluminum chronographs the next time you're in New York, uh if you want to you want to try that on for a few days, you're more than welcome. I think I think I should. I think you definitely should I'll see you next week. Yeah, exactly. For me, the action is the juice. It's an interesting material like um like uh I don't know.um Alinum was like I mean I was gonna say aluminum is the nineties version of titanium and that that's actually completely untrue. Um but you know I think two tone is the nineties version of titanium. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean aluminum has some of the same problems that titanium does. It's the light, strong metal, but um you know it's it's pretty soft, it tends to scratch easily, tends to dent easily. You know, I mean which would you rather have an aluminum watch or a titanium watch? Like you you ha you have to think you have to be the sort of person who thinks to yourself, titani uh aluminum or sorry, aluminium. Cool. You know? It's a it's a different it like it would be different than any other watch you have kind of sitting on uh on your desk or if you have a watch box or whatever. Like a I think there's some variety there that's uh that's kind of good. What do you think of these uh what do you think of these logan? 'Cause these reference a a design that you could go back on even further than this modern one, right? Yeah. No, I think it's a really interesting period. I particularly like the GMT that Danny highlighted. But as a whole, you know, you have to get past the the bulgary on the bezel, which is in my, you know, you kind of get used to it. I think. I think they're cool and they're super lightweight. So you can't be
Danny Milton at up. You mean the bulgury, bulgary, bulgary, bulgory, bulgari on the bezel? Or the bulgury on the bezel? I think it
James Stacey 's just two. Is it just two? I I mean conspicuous logoing is a funny thing with like I kind of feel like Bulgari gets a pass just because they've been doing it, you know, ever since the Bulgary Roma, and it's like not every logo, you know, deserves to be thought of as iconic. Sometimes it's like you know, it's it's it's it's more an annoyance that you yeah, it's more it's more an annoyance that you put up with rather than a feature. But Bavulgary has been using it as a design feature for so long. I I feel like they, you know, not only are they allowed if you're if you're in if you're if you're looking at a bovulgary watch, um isn't isn't it fun to say it that way? Bavulgary. If you's right. Yeah. If you're looking at a Bulgari watch, it's kind of like you're you're you're that's part of that's part of what you're there for in a way. Yeah. I I think it would be weird if they had done this newest this latest at iteration of this whole of the whole lineup and omitted that or went with something else on the bezel, we'd all be like, well, I why though? So it is one of those things where I think maybe if they started it now, you'd go, that's kind of flash. Like can you imagine if they did a whole series with names with names of other like Roman cities like um the Bulgary Herculaneum uh I like wh
Danny Milton atever. That's a terrible idea. We are forgetting that that that R Rolex does now engrave the rehot with Rolex, Rolex, Rolex, Rolex, Rolex, Rolex, Rolex. Many, many more Rolex than there are
James Stacey Bulgari. And the serial number, uh, if you if you happen to have a high enough resolution camera when you take your wrist shot. Thank you for that, Rolex. Be careful, everybody. Be careful. All right. Uh I'm gonna offer up another one. This is tough because I I'm trying to decide if I go with something kind of new and interesting that uh that has become a recent fascination of mine or or something a little bit on the older side. I think I'll save the new and interesting for my third pick. I'm going to go with an Omega, a watch that I've been interested in in some time and has kind of seen a rise, but I think it's always kind of been a second, third, maybe even fourth chair to the standard sort of bond seamasters of the era. So this is the Seamaster GMT from the mid 2000s would be the easiest explanation. It's the two five three eight. It's known today as the Great White. It uses a uh so it it''ss a white dial with a white bezel. It really has its own sort of look. They made a black dial version, which I think is also quite handsome. I actually am not sure which one I would immediately pick uh between each other, but I do really like these. It's the nice thin C Master case of the time. It's a little thicker than like a 2254 because it is a GMT movement. And in this case, it's a 41mm steel case. Like I said, black or white. It's got red accents. And it's uh an omega-1128, which is a modified EDA caliber that ends up with a flyer GMT. So I actually think there's still some sneaky value in this because if you want the that kind of true GMT functionality, you are getting it, and you're getting it um even today from a great brand at a good price point drop from let's say a Black Bay GMT or certainly a GMT master, uh, you know, more than you might pay for the Mito, Ocean Star GMT, stuff like that. But I think these are really handsome. They're from a time with Omega I love. They're also Seamasters with a sword hand, which at this point um I I'm uh uh uh burdened uh to love. I've I've been such a vocal supporter of of the uh the loss of the sword hand and the two two five four and such. And I'm always surprised that these didn't kind of become more popular with the general rise of the GMT in the last few years. I think they're still a little bit sneaky in there. You guys agree or or this one has had plenty of attention and doesn't need more? I don't know if it's had plenty of attention. We can move on to the next bit. It's an awesome watch, James. Uh and I think you're right. It has received a lot of attention. It's um definitely I see it a lot more often on Instagram than I did three, four years ago. Um, for sure
Danny Milton . Yeah, I mean it's it's it's just an awesome launch. I wasn't surprised 'cause you've talked about it before. I'm not necessarily as into the sword hands as you are, but I think that I think I could be swayed. I'm I'm in a position where I could be convinced. I'll put it that way. He's a skeleton hand Philistine.
James Stacey I think Cole is a big fan of uh generation. That's right. I think so, yeah. The the what what shines about these one I'll always regret selling my two two five four. I don't know what what what what I was doing at the time. I was I had lost my mind briefly. I was somewhere in the desert and uh and and thought this might bring me water, but I I miss it. They just wear really, really well. They sit nice and low, great dials. Um the you know it's it's a it's in my opinion, it's one of my favorite ways to see an omega symbol on my wrists is with one of these, like a 2254, or in this case the two five three eight. Could I just say one thing, one thing about sword hands? I don't why, but like I look at them and they look kind of anachronistic to me and like in a way that most other types of hands don't. And maybe it's I mean, maybe it's just because, you know, a lot of brands have kind of fallen out of the habit of using them. But like they're not bad, but they sort of remind me of the remember the opera windows on uh you know, like uh what was it uh like the like the Cadillac the Cadillac Seville and uh and the Chrysler Cordova? Like there's nothing wrong with them, but it just like says a certain air so firmly. I can't even I can't Jack, I can't believe that you just compared my beloved sword hands to aqua windows on Malay's era Cadillacs. Uh you know, this is what what's next? Uh comparing a NATO to a Landau top or something. You said it, not me. That's funny. That's a funny thought. Landau tops. Okay. I do think we can jump into uh into our final round here. Uh so uh Logan, why don't you kick us off with uh your third uh third hidden gem? Yeah, so I kind of uh debated on the last piece I wanted to highlight. I thought a bit about the Zenith Elite, but I really wanted to shine a light on kind of the older uh Gluchutor original pieces. Um I really like the Senator Navigator, which is their kind of take on a pilot's watch uh that has uh zero reset functionality for the second's hand when you pull the crown out. Uh and you can get that for like four thousand or so dollars. Um, which I th I think compared to you know, an IWC is is just awesome value. But the piece I really want to focus on uh is the Glashutter Original Sport Evolution perpetual calendar world time hybrid kind of wack-a-doodle just wild watch. Yeah it is a wild thing. Yeah so it's uh it's a perpetual calendar with the indications kind of spread out through the dial, uh black dial, bunch of red accents, Kevlar strap, uh, world time bezel. I don't know. I think uh at 42 millimeter being able to include all that, all those complications is is really impressive. Uh 100 meter water resistance. It's a true sport watch, um, but a highly complicated one. And it also has kind of just that Teutonic design language, that um that that kind of sobriety that Blucheterginale is really good at. And And this was the last generation of the sport evolution, I think. And we haven't we didn't see another sport watch from Gluchu Terragenal until the um the diver that they came out with uh like two, three years ago, the CQ, which is nice in itself, but it kind of falls uh victim to the same strategy that the JLC we were just talking about. Uh you know, we had this really contemporary, interesting design language that was entirely their own thing that was discontinued in the late 2000s, early 2010s, and they brought back their sport watch five, six, seven, eight years later in the form of kind of a vintage inspired. On trend, of course, but you lose a bit of that um twenty first century charm, I would say. Yeah. Is that a thing? Can we say 21st century charm? I I'm fine. I'll allow it. Sure. On my list of possible candidates for the show, I had the GMT version of the same generation of the watch, the Sport Evo GMT, which a friend of mine owned. And in person, it was such an impressive watch because it had every kind of touch point and visual point in the metal of a real luxury Bloshuta original. And then it was just kind of formed into this burly sort of tough guy dive watch with the with a push button GMT uh movement that I really like. Those are really, really cool watches. Um and one that you'd you like you'd not only you don't ever see them in person, uh that was the only one I've ever seen in person, um, but one that you don't, you know, we're not seeing people chit-chat about very much. So I think a a solid pick for the show for sure. I think dive watch versions of high complications in general are kind of a fascinating thing. It's like, you know, there you are, you know, under forty meters of water, you know, counting counting bottom time, you know, trying to remember Exactly. You're just unbelievably narc trying to figure out if it's a leap here or not. Yeah, you're like you're you're swimming upside down in the wrong direction and going, ah oui is the music of the spheres. I don't think this moon face is accurate. All right, that's a solid one. Good uh good good trio, uh Logan. Uh and we'll we'll do a little run at the end. I think we'll have time to just list off a bunch of uh honorable mentions because we've got others that aren't gonna make the list. But uh Jack, what have you got for uh number three? Well I was gonna mention two more rectangular watches with hand wound movements, uh which are the um the Parmajani Fleur uh Hebdomedeir and the the paddock uh the paddock tende. And uh the Hebdomedeir is relatively easy to find in steel The 10 day isn't people that's another one of those watches. If people have them, they they they seem to be holding on to them. But then I thought, you know, why don't why aren't people talking about the classic IWC Portuguese uh chronograph all that much these days. And it's like I feel like ten years ago that was still like a a watch that people were thinking about a lot. It was a super popular watch. You know, to me it always it I mean, it always kind of reminded me of like, you know, the the big wrist chronographs that were starting to make their way onto pilots' wrists towards the end of World War One. And it's like it's just such a classic design. There's really nothing to add to it. There's nothing to take away. Um the hands are beautiful. It comes in like, you know, a lot of different colorways. Um so if you find one that's in a colorway that you like, you're not necessarily gonna feel like you're wearing a watch that you know tons of other guys have. And I don't know it just fell off people's radar, I guess. But I think it's a great watch. I agree. And you know, we're you're the the link that you dropped in, you're we're seeing 'em, you know, in the mid five thousand range, that seems like a lot of watch for the money, especially if you want to play a little bit outside of the the norm these days, which uh you know, not doing another steel Rolex adjacent sort of sports watch or uh or something like that. I think these are are clever and handsome and I think they also came in a whole bunch of versions, didn't they? Yeah, yeah. A bunch of different over the years. Bunch different dials, bunch of different hands. Um you know there was a Rachrapont version um you know with uh with which which is one of my favorite watches of all time. And it's like it's this wonderful combination of uh it's a really tough watch. I mean, you know, the movement is a 7750 and it's just like, you know, I mean, uh you can put a bullet through it and it'll keep on working. And it you combine it with this like kind of slab-sided ch,unky pocket watch-esque case. And then you have these beautiful long, thin, delicate hands and all that one all that real estate on the on the dial. Like it achieves a kind of poetry you wouldn't expect from that kind of watch, I guess, um, from a chronograph from IWC. But I just thought it was it was just one of those things where um the design and the physical qualities of the case and the quality of the movement really just came together beautifully and produced like a minor modern classic. Yeah. I also think that these are the the the other kind of secret power for these sorts of watches, especially the the the one which which you shared here is for the forty one millimeter version with twenty millimeter lugs, is you can change this watch with the strap. Just change the strap up and the whole vibe of the watch changes it it has this sort of nice template for um for a variety of different looks. It can be dressy, it can be casual. And I think that also makes your money go even further if uh if you decide to go for something like that. Especially with like a chronograph where sometimes they can be a little bit limiting in um in their ability to be dressy unless they're specifically dressy. And in this case it's kind of um by happenstance or or just by solid design. I mean there's a lot of different data's that could work on it. Well why maybe not one of one of our colleagues remember a few months back posted a flamingo pattern dado. I'm not sure that would work particularly well with this one. I think that's that's a that's a e might even be more about the risk than the want. Uh with you know w I I have um I have a a lizard camo based on a uh a French uh military camo from uh a vintage French military camo and it's very hard to wear too. You really have to kind of commit to it. But if I'm wearing like head to toe green I can kind of make it work. Which which you do constantly. Yeah. I mean it's green green or blue. There's no other colors as far as I'm concerned. Uh or Logan's got the got the control of all the other colors. Uh all right. Let's uh let's get a third one from you, Danny. How are you looking? Ye
Danny Milton ah, so I'm gonna keep rolling on the train of watches that are not discontinued but are are hidden inside brand collections. So I'm going with the uh Hublow Classic Fusion thirty eight millimeter. Because I think when you think about Hublow as a brand, you just assume it's a bunch of huge watches that are unapproachable unless you really have to be into a specific kind of a design language. And I think that this is the closest. I picked the titanium just out of price consideration, but if you wanted to go with a precious metal, you're looking at a watch about as close to the original Hublow from the 80s as you're gonna get uh on the market, especially on rubber. And I think it's a I think it's a really neat kind of design. Obviously, it pulls heavily from sort of the the Nautilus Royal Oak language, but I think that from a perspective of what it represents, it's sort of a stunty kind of watch brand. And if it's way more uh you can buy one of them, first of all. Uh, and that's uh that just and you can get them for way less than every other one of those kind of of those aforementioned brands. So I don't know. I think it's fun. If you don't like Hublow and you've never, if you didn't know this existed, check it out. Cause you know it's there. I
James Stacey was on a press trip a few years back with a French journalist who was wearing a classic fusion on loan from Hublot. And he was like mad at himself the whole trip because he really liked it and he had like made up his mind that he was ideologically opposed to Yublot. Right, right. And he spent the whole trip in in the state of kind of I forget the brand that we were visiting. It would it definitely wasn't you blow. He spent the whole trip in a kind of state of existential disgruntlement. That sounds about right. That's most watch journalism. But like it's it's a nice watch. It is. I do like these, Danny. I think this is a good pick. These are watches I've always kind of uh you know, I still remain uh a stand, if you will, for the standard forty-two millimeter titanium big bang Unico. I think that's a really charming watch in person on a nice rubber strap, totally wearable. I really like they make the um with the racing gray dial. Yeah. Uh I think that one's quite handsome uh on on the rubber strap. Cool pick. I guess that means it's my turn. And I'm I'm gonna go with um man, this is a toughie yeah i'm gonna go with the long jeans conquest vhp gmt uh this is a watch i've recently become like loosely fascinated in because no one talks about it but it has you know I always make the case that if you're gonna go with quartz, it should do something fun for being quartz, like it I I like a digital watch, right? Because then you get a backlight and who doesn't like a backlight or other functions uh and that sort of thing. These are a really interesting watch where you have a super accurate quartz movement in a 41 millimeter sport watch. I think quite a handsome watch. And I'm not usually a huge kind of vocal fan of uh Langin's sportier watches. I like their classic design language, I like their vintage design language, but their sport watches very hit or miss for me. And in this case I think it hits. You get a perpetual calendar, blue or sort of a white dial, a nice sort of sporty, sterile bezel look. And then with the GMT version, it it has a GMT, but you actually set the GMT with an app on your phone, but it's not like Bluetooth or something. It's way weirder than that. There's a little optical sensor in the one numeral of the 12 o'clock marker, and you actually hold your phone over the watch while it's in setting mode, and your phone uses the flash to communicate a signal that syncs the watch. So you change time zone and you're in the plane and you just pick the time on your app while holding the phone over your wrist and then it flashes a few times and the time updates. I think this is really clever, especially like if you travel a lot, so like where the time zone change thing is is kind of crucial. I think this is subtle and kind of elegant. It's the right size, it's twelve and a half millimeters thick. Thirteen hundred dollars for all of this, and you get the the incredible accuracy of their VHP line uh combined with this sort of I don't know esoteric doesn't even get there. It's just like I the the the kind of kid in me, the the tech kind of nerd in me like really enjoys this solution that doesn't require something as as sort of mundane and almost um annoying as Bluetooth has has become in the last few years, right? Yeah, VH the VHP standard is uh plus minus ten seconds per year, right? Five seconds. I think it's five, yeah. Which I believe so I'm I'm super glad you brought these up, James, because I have had a big crush on them ever since they were released five or so years ago. Um I believe it's the most accurate Swiss made internally compensated watch ever. And there's not a ton of press about that. I'm gonna have to get one of these in, I think. The old Omega Marine chronometers from the 70s or 80s were 10 seconds per year. Launching, the the first VHP from launching actually came out in the early 80s. That was a thermocompensated quartz piece. Uh, that was 10 seconds per year. I don't believe that there have been other Swiss-made wristwatches uh that have achieved the five seconds per year mark outside the current generation launching VHP. Jack, do you know of any? I'm Brightley Super Quartz? What's the spec on those? Believe that's 10 seconds per year. Yeah. Of course, Citizen has the one second per year spec that they came out with a few years ago, which obviously surpasses um everybody as Longine, but yeah, everything. But I think what Long Jean did with these and has done with them is just fantastic. And there's there's legit history there. Cause like I said, they introduced the VHP line. The first generation was in the early 80s. The last thing I wanted to add, and then we can get to honorable mentions, is they also make this in just a three-hander date. So if you don't want the GMT, you can still get the VHP. It's a thousand dollars. Also kind of a sleeper. And now I don't actually know when this happened. This is how much of a sleeper it is. Or it's sleeper is for me. I'm obviously I'm I'm projecting here, but uh they also make a chronograph, a forty-two millimeter VHP chronograph that's pretty handsome. And and you know it for those of you out there who are either the types who have a spreadsheet in in Google Docs that uh tracks your annual movement and you get to celebrate that every December on Watchy Seek, uh that that's one one always of my favorite posts to dig into. I love how nerdy that is. But I I think this GMT is is absolutely kind of an overlooked hidden gem. I think the price point's really strong. It's the right size and then it has this very interesting movement that takes a lot of kind of the the troublesome elements of of operating a GMT kind of uh gets rid of them. I think if you traveled a ton for business, this watch would make so much sense. Really, really neat feature set. Okay. And that's uh that's 12 that we've come through. So uh I hope everyone enjoyed those picks. Maybe some of them in my case, maybe I I kind of made a mistake with the with the Omega, maybe not that hidden of a gem, maybe a slightly hidden gem. A gem sitting out on the counter that for some reason no one's paying any attention to. Mm-hmm Yeah. Just one that's it just it just is it's in a couch cushion. That's all. It's a couch cushion gem. It's not gone. What about some old honorable mentions? Any any guys that think that we you know you might have gotten to if you'd had five picks or something we we should uh you know shout out before we end the show oh uh that's a just a very quick one and uh what we were talking about high accuracy quartz and uh the pulsar PSR ten and PSR twenty were really cool watches back in the day. Really beautifully made really, nice bracelets. You know, again, uh high accuracy battery-powered quartz. Um but uh amazing, amazing accuracy. And um yeah yeah worth worth worth looking for if you can find one that's working. I mean they're they're uh they're not expensive
Danny Milton at all and uh amazingly well made. Yeah I was going to throw out the IWC Ingenieur. It's still in the collection. When I was doing our entry level story on IWC for the least expensive IWC and it ended up being the 36mm pilots watch. For a brief moment, I I thought that it was going to be the Ingenieur because it's the second least expensive IWC, which is amazing. I mean that's what that's sort of your deep cut IWC watch, but it's a super wearable with tons of history, forty millimeters. I think the current gen comes on a strap if you're if you're looking at that watch and it's just fun. I w it was between that was that almost made it into my list and that that's's still out there, hidden deep in the IWC collection. Yeah, for sure. I promised myself before this uh rec
James Stacey ording that I wasn't going to spend the entire time talking about uh 90s, 2000s, Blanc Pon, uh because, I'm a big fan of uh those early Le Mon pieces, Aqua Lung, um, the Villeray calendars, uh, all wonderful. Uh same thing with Parmigiani. Uh I'm a big Parmigiani guy, so I love the the nineties, uh Torque memory time, which is really worth a look if uh you don't know that watch. Uh and then yeah, just a shout out to the Zenith Elite as well, which I think is a really exceptional movement. Um that hasn't really elite diver It was the Zenith Rainbow Elite Diver. It was a rainbow 39mm. Came in black. Definitely, I think a silver. There was a yellow dial with a black bezel for a little while. And if I remember correctly, and my apologies if I get this wrong. Uh put it in the comments. Let me know. I'll lead some crow on the next episode. But I think it was nine millimeters thick with two hundred meters of water resistance. That's a that's a watch I tried to hunt down a couple times. They were really hard to find. Yeah, the elite for a self-winding full rotor movement is uh quite them. I don't know the exact uh measurement off the top of my head, but yeah, that's a great, great movement that hasn't really I feel like found it. It's been completely overshadowed by the El Primero and its existence. U I mean Zenith itself never talks about it. Yeah. Yeah. They're kind of they kind of keep it in the back. The the speedy shadow happens to in in other brands, it seems. Let's see, is uh on my list I've got um oh the IWC Aqua Timer, the thirty five thirty-eight. So this is that um integrated RIA uh like internal bezel rubber strap with sort of a proprietary lug, black and yellow. These are like under four grand right now. And I think they look really cool. They're 42 millimeters. That for me is a style that has never really gone away for in terms of appeal, that era of IWC and and of course they had that really rad Cousteau version which you can see in the John Mayer talking watches with the blue orange. You know, I I would love to see them return to this kind of stuff. It's a it at this point I'm a bit of a broken record on wanting a return of the GST line uh into uh into the current lineup. Um but I think this is a real sweet spot and and to start seeing these, you know, there were other aqua timers of the time that I thought were really pretty, but they were a little larger, forty four, forty four and a half millimeters. And to see these drop uh you know, below the price point of like a a new toot or or something like that, I think really makes them an appealing uh option if you're a a dive watch fan and kind of enjoy that super Teutonic sort of uh mid two thousand sort of look. Yeah, I think a really important thing to I mean, uh uh as watch enthusiasm has grown in the last five or six years, you know, we frequently hear people complain that everything's too expensive. And yeah, luxury watches are s expensive, breaking news. But there's a lot of really good value to find to to dig through. Um I mean, that launching VHP five second per year spec. I'm sure you can find one pre-owned for under a grand. Like that's like that's a watch that you can have the rest of your life and you don't you don't need another watch. Like, you know, take take the time to look, realize what kind of watches you like and and don't be afraid to you know buy preempt. Absolutely. Yeah, and you know, this is this is this is one of the reasons why um it's valuable to educate yourself if you're uh if you're a watch enthusiast as much as you can about the the past of um as many brands as possible because uh you know know knowledge is power and uh you know I mean we've mentioned a few hidden gems here but there's dozens and dozens that we know that that we didn't mention and virtually all of them represent um a significant uh significant um value proposition over the cost of modern watches at retail. And you know, which is not to say that there isn't a special feeling associated with uh you know walking into a boutique and be being the first owner of a brand new watch that uh you know that you've had your eye on for you know months or even years. But there's just so much great stuff out there. Um and you know, some of it, like I mean, honestly, if you wanted along a cabaret, I think that you're probably gonna um I I don't know what the market price is, but that that that's probably gonna be expensive. But uh not not every not every hidden gem is. You know, there are a couple on my list that I'm not even sure count as hidden gems. Like I've I've waxed poetic ad nasium about the Breitling Aerospace, the earlier ones, the 40 millimeter versions. I think those are sweet watches. They've gone up in price in the last few years, but they're not a fortune. I'll I'll include a a little buying guide that that we posted a little while ago about those. And then the other one is is just one that I don't think anyone people weren't really ready for it, but it's one of my favorite uh dive watches from Oris is the Der Meister Talker. So that's their regulator tatinium dive watch. And that on a rubber strap. I'd forgotten about that one. So it was discontinued sometime in the last uh year or two, but uh you know I, had one of these on uh a big dive trip I did to uh Clipperton several years ago, and on the red rubber strap with that oddball regulator style layout almost gives you a little bit of a resence vibe. And then it' susre it's a forty-three and a half millimeter case with the titanium and the really short lugs on the aquas case make it super wearable. It was not too big uh uh for my wrist. It was maybe a little bit too much on the titanium bracelet, as cool as that looked. But uh man, I I I did a quick search for these last night and they're like around for two grand. That's a that's a interesting, uncommon kind of special feeling dive watch for what isn't that much money in the aurus world or in the world of, you know, luxury dive watches. You might say it's an aurus of a different color. I suppose. I just want to say one thing before we close, um, which is that uh uh listeners uh will you know will not be able to see this, but there are four of us in this call, three of us have microphone stands and one of us, mister Danny Milton, has been hand holding his microphone this entire time. And uh I'm sure his arm is as tired as the sword arm of Aragorn, son of Aerathorn on uh uh the parapets of Helm's Deep at the coming of dawn. And yet here he is. He's stuck with us. Stu
Danny Milton ck, stuck with us the whole way. Not all heroes wear capes. You wouldn't even know it. That's right. Thank you. Thank you, Jack, for calling
James Stacey attention to that fact. Really thank you. We'll look Danny I'll be uh I'll be Gandalf cresting cresting the uh the ridge line and and bringing back up we can we can end this episode. We're over an hour now. It's been an absolute treat guys thank you so much uh for coming on and and kind of just humoring my love of of watches that we forget to talk about or or or should talk about more often. And I I think there's some winners on this list for sure. Anyone listening, if you have any questions, you you want to dig into these watches, everything's in the show notes, both in the feed for the show and of course in the post on Hodinky. Uh do remember that we're now operating seven days a week, so swing by on the weekend and see what we've got programmed. Uh some pretty good stuff, including uh Hodinky Radio, which is now going to come out Sunday mornings. And other than that, you know what I always say. Uh, if you enjoyed the episode, please tell a friend and we'll chat to you in about a week's time. Thanks, guys. Thanks, James. Thanks, everybody.